kj
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 06:57 AM |
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single seater
Hi,
Just found this on the haynes forum an up date for the single seater.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/saturnsportscars/sets/72157627657443099/
Think about it, think about it again and then do it.
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D Beddows
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 07:22 AM |
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I understand that it's not the finished item but........... sorry, that's horrible in so many ways  Why on earth you'd build that
instead of a Terrapin is beyond me.
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MikeR
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 07:55 AM |
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I have to admit that after lusting for this over the last two years I was very disappointed by the pictures and my quick brain dump.... for example
the seating position is very upright.
Hopefully some better ones will be out soon.
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slingshot2000
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 07:56 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
I understand that it's not the finished item but........... sorry, that's horrible in so many ways Why on earth you'd build that
instead of a Terrapin is beyond me.
^+1
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chris mason
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 08:29 AM |
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It had so much promise, then i saw the pictures oh dear................................................
Is the kit available from Screwfix, Plumbcentre or B&Q?
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foskid
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 08:37 AM |
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I can't see that one catching on
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TimC
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 08:44 AM |
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Nasty
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StevieB
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 08:47 AM |
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+1 for the terrapin.
The Haynes car looks a bit disproportionately large but the seating position look incredibly cramped around the arms/legs but with the driver sat very
upright.
Having said that, it'll still catch on in the same way as the Haynes roadster, which also IMHO is just a bit wrong in it's proportions
(too big).
I have a copy of High Speed Low Cost and am trying to get a set of plans - I'd love to make it one day with a bike engine in.
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Hector.Brocklebank
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 08:48 AM |
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My eyes my eyes they hurt the pain..........................
looks like the motor cover mould was taken from some american style coffin !!!
Me thinks Mr Stainforth (R.I.P) would be chuckling at the sight of that thing.
I reckon Haynes publishing has told them to get the finger out so a book can be published and this is the result !!!
[Edited on 14/10/2011 by Hector.Brocklebank]
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sprouts-car
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 09:01 AM |
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I see lots of love for the Terrapin in this thread.
Never seen one before. Is this it?
If so I dont think much of that either!!
Where are the nice single seaters?
Build blog
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StevieB
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 09:12 AM |
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The terrapin has been around since the early 60's (IIRC the original book was printed in 1963). So, the terrapin has taken many different forms
in both looks and construction over the years - plenty people have used the base design and gone their own way with the overall build.
The main difference between a terrapin and the Haynes single seater is that the terrapin is a proper race car, not something made to look like one.
This is one the best looking terrapins IMHO, and it's bloody quick too (in the right
hands).
Check out terrapinracing.co.uk for lots of other information on the car and it's many guises over the years - the gallery for new builds has a
particularly nice example of an old school A-Series powered car that I think was built by someone who uses this forum.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 09:24 AM |
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The Haynes guys seem to be in love with it. Looks like the front wishbones
will hit the chassis with even a minor upward deflection and it looks like a fracture or a 'dent' in the nosecone at the rear of the front
wishbone.
[Edited on 14/10/11 by Mark Allanson]
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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steve m
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 09:30 AM |
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Nothing to with either of the above, but was on the side of the terrapin link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk89EqfGme4&feature=related
what a noise!
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D Beddows
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 09:31 AM |
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Terrapins can be ugly as sin as well tbh but that's mostly down to what bodywork the builder uses/makes. It's not all about looks though
as I'm sure you could make the haynes single seater look better if you made some different bodywork - you'd have to I think looking at
those pictures
Terrapins are hardly at the bleeding edge of racecar engineering either but but they do have a long history of hillclimb success and I'm pretty
sure for most of us your driving talent would run out before you found any serious handling limitations.
To be fair the Haynes book might be a useful read if it contains a decent idiots guide to properly making your own chain diff etc etc but as to
actually building the car yourself..................
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off-road-ham
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 09:39 AM |
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if you read the post on the haynes forum he says it was the first test session last week and they have had to do a lot of work since then.
i would want to wait for the finished model before making judgement.
as for the terrapin, does anyone know what would be needed to pass iva.
also in true locost fashion you can change the outside to suit your own taste.
i suspect there will be a lot of people (includeing myself) who will go for this simply because you know it will pass iva
and you will get parts easly.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 09:45 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sprouts-car
I see lots of love for the Terrapin in this thread.
Never seen one before. Is this it?
If so I dont think much of that either!!
Where are the nice single seaters?
They are still stuck in 1966!
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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Triton
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 09:59 AM |
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I quite like that terrapin, but then I'm a 60's bod and hate modern cars
My Daughter has taken over production of the damn fine Triton race seats and her contact email is emmatrs@live.co.uk.
www.tritonraceseats.com
www.hairyhedgehog.com
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mad-butcher
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 10:44 AM |
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Sorry but I've waited years (even had the book on pre-order) what an ugly looking thing, looks to me as if someones taken the front frame and
independent suspension rear end of an indy/locost/mac1 and welded a few bits of steel between them to form a chassis, wishbones look std 7, driving
position is horrible (last thing I drove with a driving position like that was a saracen armoured car) much prefer Martin Keenans single seater, sorry
but I'll be looking at something else for the spare R1 motor.
tony
[Edited on 14/10/11 by mad-butcher]
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 10:46 AM |
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As above (mostly)
The Terrapin is a design from the 60's but the general chassis proportions are cocrrect. So you could make bodywork to make it look pretty,
whereas that Haynes Single Seater is just about ALL wrong in my humble opinion... It looks like not only the bodywork was made for the american
market, but the chassis Dims and proportion were also - as for dents in the dents in the bodywork etc, it's just where two moulds have been
(eventually) made to produce a single part and has been done very poorly...
Ironically, I was not waiting for the Single Seater book to be launched to build one myself, as I won't have the money for toys for some years,
but I was really looking forward to it, in the way a schoolboy might look forward to his favourite annual etc - would have definitely bought it, if it
looked even remotely well proportioned...
Anything anywhere near the ccar in the Pic below would be an improvement...
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norfolkluego
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 11:13 AM |
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Well that looks like a Tiger ERA, I like that, prefer their Lotus 15(?) copy though
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 11:14 AM |
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It could have been so good
 
Lotus
 
Haynes Single Seater
perhaps some stickers might help it along a bit?
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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D Beddows
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 11:50 AM |
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Lol completely OT but I seem to have started an Avatar trend with the MX5 owning among us 
[Edited on 14/10/11 by D Beddows]
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 01:26 PM |
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Is it just me , or does the engine cover look too much like half a coffin lid ? Not that I'm superstitious or anything.
Perhaps the design was influenced by the Munsters dragster.
On the plus side , it does appear to have central heating.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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kipper
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 01:45 PM |
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single seater
Well I am disappointed, I was looking forward to seeing this so much.
Oh well I don,t think I will be buying the book and clearing a space in the workshop for that.
Denis.
Where did that go?
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JC
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| posted on 14/10/11 at 02:14 PM |
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The looks aren't anything to shout about, however they are not as nice as they might be though. The front track looks much wider than the rear
- might be an illusion. However, the killer for me is the upright seat (might be different with an actual seat in?) and the fact that the steering
wheel appears to be in the drivers 'nether' regions!
Another vote for a classic looking terrapin (have book but not plans )
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