samjc
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| posted on 17/10/11 at 10:52 PM |
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Duratec v6
a long way off needing to fit an upgrade engine and still learning about it all but been looking over options. Bike engine would be nice but insurance
would be very steep, a played about zetec or maybe duratec hmmm me nice an quick but came across duratec v6 assuming its the mondeo st24 engine and
would be noce and diffrent may sound a bit meaty too so anyone done this or have this engine in a car or kit. Come on people through in the opinions
and ideas
Was even wundering what mods would be nice for a v6 nothing silly money tho.
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owelly
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| posted on 18/10/11 at 01:22 AM |
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No help from me with the V6 Duratec but I'm sure Clairetoo can tell you stuff!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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ianjenn
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| posted on 18/10/11 at 06:17 AM |
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I'm fitting a duratec v6 from an s-type at the moment.
link to write up
To me it seems to be the perfect engine for a kit car, compact, lightweight and powerful (240BHP out of the box)
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samjc
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| posted on 18/10/11 at 07:19 AM |
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Cheers guys its a fair way away.but just looking it all over, I didnt think a v6 would be light weight but then again pintos a brick. Also in the
pictures did you change the jag rocker covers for ford items.
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 18/10/11 at 08:21 AM |
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Depends how much pioneering you want to do, I have gone down the inline 4 Duratec route and to be honest enjoyed doing it -but because it is not the
popular choice yet, sourcing parts and info is the hardest bit, and there is quite a bit of information out their.
It is also a very expensive way to go.
I can only think that the V6 route would be even more expensive and frustrating.
If you are going to put 240HP down the Sierra drive train you will need quite a few upgrades here too.
Duratec Engine is fitted, MS2 Extra V3 is assembled and tested, engine running, car now built. IVA passed 26/02/2016
http://www.triangleltd.com
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samjc
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| posted on 18/10/11 at 11:48 AM |
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Currently theirs a few under £250 on the ebay, and thinking of a mt75 but may need some mods any ideas??
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coozer
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| posted on 18/10/11 at 11:55 AM |
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I think the V6 Duratec is underpowered for what it is and expensive to sort out. A V12 Duratec might fit the bill, but a bit expensive.
Plenty of lightweight V8's out there, Lexus, Merc, Audi etc. Lots of go for you money.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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DIY Si
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| posted on 18/10/11 at 03:03 PM |
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The Duratec is not the smallest of engines either. Claire has the Mazda KL 2.5l V6, and it's tiny. It's also what I'm going to put
into my Sprite. 200 or so BHP with the usual kit car mods and it'll rev to 8K almost all day long. Its also cheap as is the gearbox, which
is/was a stumbling point with the Duratec as it needs the Jag box.
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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ianjenn
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| posted on 18/10/11 at 05:36 PM |
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These guys have it bolted to a mid engined lotus esprit via an adaptor plate. I would think an MT75 could be fitted the same way. Doesn't the
mtx75 in transits have a removable bell housing.
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lotus site
I have a bell housing which bolts to a type 9 bought from the company that supplies Morgan and noble. The standard type 9 would give up fairly quickly
but the uprated 4x4 gearbox could be okay (with standard tail piece) and the longer input shaft would be an advantage. Mine has the caterham input
shaft with quaife internals.
the engine has the standard Jag cam covers. Go for it then we can compare notes
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samjc
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| posted on 18/10/11 at 06:02 PM |
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Once storage for car n bits is sorted ill be hunting down a new engine and the v6 duratec looks like fun so ill begine research now and find od bits
that ill need to know of for when it comes too it. As for the mt75box I was looking at either a transit or 4x4 as was assuming itd take better than
std mt75 or my type9.
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Rob Allison
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| posted on 20/10/11 at 09:32 PM |
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Duratec V6 with an mt75 box
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owelly
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| posted on 20/10/11 at 10:20 PM |
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And a Pug V6 bolted to a type 9!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 21/10/11 at 10:12 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by samjc
Once storage for car n bits is sorted ill be hunting down a new engine and the v6 duratec looks like fun so ill begine research now and find od bits
that ill need to know of for when it comes too it. As for the mt75box I was looking at either a transit or 4x4 as was assuming itd take better than
std mt75 or my type9.
The MT75 box won't bolt straight on to the V6 Duratec, you will need to make an adapter plate.
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samjc
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| posted on 21/10/11 at 06:03 PM |
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I was wundering this but some people say their are some that may fit from the bigger engines but dont know myself, have been offers a full engine set
up for under £200 deliverd to my door has everything from the vehicle including key n barrel with only around 40k on the clock. Think im going to
take the offer and gather parts and info slowly for it.
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clairetoo
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| posted on 21/10/11 at 06:49 PM |
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..........and a KL V6 bolted to an Mx5 gearbox
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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daniel mason
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| posted on 21/10/11 at 07:51 PM |
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That Mazda v6 looks tidy!
How far forward in the chassis did you have to fit it to get the gear lever in the correct position? I looks like a massive distance from back of
block to gear lever
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clairetoo
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| posted on 21/10/11 at 08:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daniel mason
That Mazda v6 looks tidy!
How far forward in the chassis did you have to fit it to get the gear lever in the correct position? I looks like a massive distance from back of
block to gear lever
I've got it in a Fury , with the gearbox mounted as far back as the chassis will allow , and the lever is about the same place as it was was
with the crossflow/type nine it had before .
Its probably the angle the picture was taken from that makes it look so long .
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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ceebmoj
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| posted on 21/10/11 at 09:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by clairetoo
..........and a KL V6 bolted to an Mx5 gearbox
Do you have a build diary for the KL V6 and detals of the throttle body set up you ues? are you using the standard sump?
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samjc
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| posted on 21/10/11 at 10:00 PM |
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That looks great but the duratec so far wins it for me the white std inlet manifold adds to the style any one have any measurements for the diratec,
ie hieght what sump to use length withoutqcx n width with and without all auxilaries.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 22/10/11 at 12:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by samjc
I was wundering this but some people say their are some that may fit from the bigger engines but dont know myself
AFAIK the Jag box is the only one that bolts up, and even then it's not completely straightforward as the sumps are different and the Jag
bellhousing bolts to the sump. Have a look at this thread
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samjc
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| posted on 22/10/11 at 06:45 AM |
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Thankyou very mich for help I am going direction of spacing plate to seal spaces and get a better fixing point, would an mt75 be better as moderner
inturnals and easier for parts especial a diesel transit one as my type 9 I think would go pop with the power and dont want to go high modifying its
internals as its an old box.
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samjc
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| posted on 26/10/11 at 03:09 PM |
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Engines coming saterday afternoon £170 including delivery 
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