skinny
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 10:23 AM |
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Diesel Kit Car
will diesel ever be common in kit cars?
maybe not for locosts but i wouldn't mind a bit of lazy torque in something else...
engine
if you don't fail, you aren't trying hard enough.
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twinturbo
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 10:55 AM |
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No.
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 10:59 AM |
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why the hell not i would defos do it, imagine the fuel economy  
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ned
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 11:02 AM |
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i once saw a picture of someone who had mated a diesel engine to a rwd gearbox in situ in a locost, not sure whether it ever got built or not.
i'd prefer a pug/citroen hdi or vw group pd diesel engine if i was ever to be that way inclined. both tunable to over 200bhp with a bucket load
of torque.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 11:17 AM |
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saw a ford 1,8 td in a seven once,bit smokey but kept up with the mid feild boys
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 11:19 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by twinturbo
No.
try a 150hp (or 163 in the one seires) bmw 3 series diesel and eat your words!!!!!!!!!!
chipped they can make 180hp and even as std produce more torque than an impretza wrx turbo, and the 3 seires 3 litre
atb
steve
[Edited on 10/8/04 by stephen_gusterson]
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marktigere1
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 11:29 AM |
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Not much fun if you like stirring the gearlever!!
Put it in 5th and leave it
If a bolt is stuck force it.
If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway!!!
(My Dad 1991)
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 12:29 PM |
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not necessarily.
the six speed on my car goes to 25 in first, 50min second and 75 ish in 3rd. Torque will keep you there once you are there, but its fast changes
during acelleration!
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by marktigere1
Not much fun if you like stirring the gearlever!!
Put it in 5th and leave it
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marktigere1
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 01:03 PM |
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Steve
What rpm are you pulling at those gear changes out of interest? Engine?
Cheers
Mark
If a bolt is stuck force it.
If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway!!!
(My Dad 1991)
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locoboy
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 01:04 PM |
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saw a comment in Auto Express a couple of months ago about we$t£ield helping a guy build a diesel car.
I dont mind getting out of mine and smelling a little of exhaust from a petrol engine but imagine honking of diesel exhaust - no thanks!
ATB
Locoboy
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 01:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by marktigere1
Steve
What rpm are you pulling at those gear changes out of interest? Engine?
Cheers
Mark
Thats the issue!
maxes at 4,500 rpm.
As the engine produces max torque at 1800 rpm, you tend to inmost cases plonk along around 2,000 rpm.
country lane stuff in top is often around 1500 and you can toodle at 30 in 4th and pull away at 1000.
You have to be careful pulling away from tickover, as the turbo takes a couple of secs to spin up. No cutting people up pulling out for this car!
atb
steve
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locoboy
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 01:39 PM |
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Get the revs up and slip the cluth thats what i need to do in my 1.6 focus when i have the aircon on at junctions, its utterly naff.
in all honesty i have turned it off before now when i have to give it a bit of leather pulling out at junctions
ATB
Locoboy
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 01:44 PM |
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aircon has that big an effect!
The only car I have driven that showed aircon as an engine load was a daewoo matiz in majorca. You could hear the engine note change slightly as you
pressed the button!
atb
steve
ps - you can rev it to 'prime' the power, but it seems a bit 'loutish' to do that with a diesel
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locoboy
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 03:13 PM |
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'loutish' good word Steve.
Yes it does have that big an effect
I nearly stalled it a few times pulling onto roundabouts before i realised what was going on - now it gets a reet good priming so to speak lol.
The rev counter takes a momentary dive of a hundred revs or so when its turned on.
And you should see the lights dim big stylee when you put the heated front screen on, and even moreso again when you put the back one on at the same
time
ATB
Locoboy
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Stuart Ainslie
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| posted on 10/8/04 at 06:47 PM |
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You want a nice Paxman Valenta, you do....
2500 BHP at about 1000 rpm.
Might cause a bit of understeer in a Locost though but a turbo whistle to die for !
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mad4x4
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| posted on 16/8/04 at 05:36 PM |
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Go for it.......
All i'll say is one word
TORQUE!
can't beat it- need to get the gearing right
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 16/8/04 at 07:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
The only car I have driven that showed aircon as an engine load was a daewoo matiz in majorca. You could hear the engine note change slightly as you
pressed the button!
My wife has a Matiz - it's perfect for the local driving she does - and you're dead right. When she wants to go at a decent speed up a
hill she has to turn the aircon off... mind you, she calls 85 a decent speed to get up hills!
David
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TPAFKAMH
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| posted on 16/8/04 at 07:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Stuart Ainslie
You want a nice Paxman Valenta, you do....
2500 BHP at about 1000 rpm.
Might cause a bit of understeer in a Locost though but a turbo whistle to die for !
Isn't that the engine used in the HSTs?
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 16/8/04 at 07:49 PM |
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dont tell anyone, but I actually quite liked the matiz.
dont think id want one every day, but it has plenty room for four, and it reminded me of my sports moped when I was 16. you could thrash it everywhere
without actually going very fast!
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
The only car I have driven that showed aircon as an engine load was a daewoo matiz in majorca. You could hear the engine note change slightly as you
pressed the button!
My wife has a Matiz - it's perfect for the local driving she does - and you're dead right. When she wants to go at a decent speed up a
hill she has to turn the aircon off... mind you, she calls 85 a decent speed to get up hills!
David
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Pseicho
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| posted on 18/8/04 at 03:46 PM |
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how about the new BMW 535d?
Over 270 hp with a 3l diesel engine.
It's like a normal gas engine but with more torque, NO turbo lag, high revs for a diesel. The 535d is comparable to the 540
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Graceland
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| posted on 18/8/04 at 06:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by TPAFKAMH
quote:
Originally posted by Stuart Ainslie
You want a nice Paxman Valenta, you do....
2500 BHP at about 1000 rpm.
Might cause a bit of understeer in a Locost though but a turbo whistle to die for !
Isn't that the engine used in the HSTs?
i was thinking just the same thing - as used in ye old intercity 125 DVTs  - mega power, mega whistle!!!!
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locost_bryan
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 posted on 19/8/04 at 04:02 AM |
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Which is the lightest, smallest diesel engine?
or why not go the whole hog - Caterpillar V16 6500hp , as used on American locomotives - might need a +40 chassis 
or a Cummins 14 litre V8 with 15-speed road-ranger box - that should give plenty of gear changing
Bryan Miller
Auckland NZ
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John Cooper - "In that rack of tubes, son"
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phelpsa
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| posted on 19/8/04 at 08:44 AM |
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this looks pretty small and light, 163bhp boat engine.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9883&item=2486781464&rd=1
Adam
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