J222jra
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posted on 19/4/13 at 01:32 PM |
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fuel pump for bike carbs?
So im progressing slowly....ive bought a 1660 xflow engine from a member of the forum, ordered bike carb conversion from Danst engineering im not just
buying all the little bits.
Im now looking at fuel pumps.....i want to run a facet pump but need to know what kind of flow rate i will need. I was thinking this one....what do
you guys think.
http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/race/fuel-pumps/facet-interrupter-electronic-fuel-pump
The silver top road pump gives 4-4.5 psi and upto 150bhp...is that enough or do i go for the next one in the scale which gives 5-6psi and upto 200bhp?
I will be using a fuel pressure regulator aswell just to make that clear.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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coozer
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posted on 19/4/13 at 01:42 PM |
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Get the pump of the same bike as the carbs.
What carbs you using?
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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J222jra
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posted on 19/4/13 at 01:57 PM |
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Id rather a brand new pump to be honest and facet pumps are very reliable and reasonably priced.
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minitici
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posted on 19/4/13 at 02:03 PM |
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As others have said - use a bike pump (for carbs) They run low pressure (1.5 to 3 psi approx).
Low pressure fuel regulators are tools of the Devil!
Anytime I find a carb run car not fuelling correctly it is invariably due to a rubbish regulator.
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nickm
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posted on 19/4/13 at 02:14 PM |
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Hi
I would agree with the others the ideal is the pump and the carbs from the original bike. Sure my old bike carb fuelling pressure was 2.5-3.0 Psi and
that was to fuel/feed a 2.0l silvertop.
An inline gauge is handy as well.
Nick M
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whitestu
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posted on 19/4/13 at 02:33 PM |
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Bike pumps are cheap and very reliable and will work best with bike carbs.
stu
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mikeb
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posted on 19/4/13 at 02:35 PM |
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i bought one of the solid state facet style cube pumps. think its upto 3.5 psi.
I haven't ran the engine in anger yet but seemed to be doing the job at ticker over.
Bike pumps are quite expensive even from breakers for 2nd hand one.
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J222jra
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posted on 19/4/13 at 02:59 PM |
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So if i buy a zx6r fuel pump will i not need to run a fuel pressure regulator?
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whitestu
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posted on 19/4/13 at 03:03 PM |
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quote:
So if i buy a zx6r fuel pump will i not need to run a fuel pressure regulator?
That's right - all it needs is 12v and a fuel supply.
Stu
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J222jra
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posted on 19/4/13 at 03:27 PM |
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Well thats certainly good news as a good regulator is £150+
Would i still be best fitting wiring it to the oil pressure switch as ive seen mentioned on here?
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kipper
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posted on 19/4/13 at 03:39 PM |
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I have been running zx9 carbs on my crossflow for 3 years now with the zx9 pump with no problems.
Regards Denis.
Where did that go?
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J222jra
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posted on 19/4/13 at 03:44 PM |
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I must say this is the most helpful forum ive ever joined.
I really appreciate all of your input guys.
James
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ryanill
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posted on 19/4/13 at 03:51 PM |
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lilltle bit late here but ill say i agree with everyone. definatly get the matching bike pump. and mount it near the tank itself. solved all my
problems
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J222jra
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posted on 19/4/13 at 03:56 PM |
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Would it be a problem fitting the pump in the engine bay?
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maccmike
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posted on 19/4/13 at 04:23 PM |
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no thir a doddle, small and weigh nothing. cables ties or hose clamp will do it
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big_wasa
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posted on 19/4/13 at 05:03 PM |
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If you want brand spanking new and you want to mount it in the engine bay and you don't want a regulator Then the Huco pump sold by webcon for
dcoe carbs is just the job.
New, 120L/H and only 1.5psi
eBay Item
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myke pocock
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posted on 19/4/13 at 05:44 PM |
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I use a Facet pump running through a Filter King with a pressure guage to get it just right.
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whitestu
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posted on 19/4/13 at 05:49 PM |
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If fitting a bike pump put it at the back under the tank. It will work better.
Stu
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dave_424
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posted on 19/4/13 at 06:09 PM |
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Got a ZX9 fuel pump for sale, let me know if you are interested
Dave
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J222jra
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posted on 19/4/13 at 08:12 PM |
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Im thinking bike pump is the best plan then guys!!! What makes them work better in the back of the car? I would prefer it in the engine bay tbh.
And are people wiring them to the oil pressure switch?
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bob
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posted on 19/4/13 at 08:14 PM |
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Fireblade carbs on my zetec and i have an R1 carb fuel pump that's rubber mounted next to the fuel tank.
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matt_gsxr
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posted on 19/4/13 at 09:10 PM |
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Agreed on stock pump. Low power consumption and very simple device (so reliable).
The reason people fit them below the tank is because they are not designed to suck fuel into them.
Folk do mount them in the engine bay and seem to get away with it, but there isn't any real disadvantage of mounting at the back.
Not sure whether wiring to oil pressure is worth the bother. The reservoir of fuel in the carbs means that the engine will run on a bit even when the
fuel pump stops. Maybe just fit a brighter oil pressure light if you are worried about possible failures in that area.
Matt
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RichardK
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posted on 20/4/13 at 03:26 AM |
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As said bike pump all the way, apparently they push fuel better, having said that mines been in the bay for 15k and not a problem on either the
original pinto or zetec, they did use the same carbs, btw any pump off a carbed 600cc bike or greater should be fine. Just watch out for the ones that
are inbuilt into the tank.
Cheers
Rich
Edited for wank spelling!
[Edited on 20/4/13 by RichardK]
Gallery updated 11/01/2011
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FASTdan
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posted on 20/4/13 at 08:55 AM |
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Hi,
I can do you a bike pump in with the kit if needed. U2U or email me and I will sort a price.
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http://www.danstengineering.co.uk/
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redturner
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posted on 22/4/13 at 04:18 PM |
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I run a 2 litre Black Top on R1 carbs with a Danst manifold in my single seater. I use a small solid state pump through a regulator and it never runs
short of fuel....
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