myke pocock
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 06:42 PM |
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Anyone like to justify this???
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9063200/NHS-spends-23m-a-year-on-translators.html
SOFT TOUCH UK AGAIN!!!
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scootz
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 06:52 PM |
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Because a handful of lawsuits brought about through a 'breakdown in communication' would probably cost the NHS more???
It's Evolution Baby!
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ReMan
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 06:56 PM |
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It can't be 
And I take a very christian view that any genuine visitors to the country should be cared for appropriately and for free whilst in our land and as
such may have difficulty in such an emergency European or otherwise. But I dont believe emergency cases would rack up that bill, 1 % maybe
www.plusnine.co.uk
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puma931
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 07:05 PM |
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Perhaps we should be investing in teaching languages at school.
Us English are the worst at speaking 2nd or 3rd languages and rely on other nationalities speaking English when we are abroad.
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iank
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 07:22 PM |
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Should just let all the deaf people die then... oh didn't you realise that budget also pays for all the sign language interpreters that are
needed and there being significantly fewer of them and having to be present in the surgery/hospital means I bet the lions share goes to them.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/may/07/lack-interpreters-deaf-people-risk
[Edited on 29/7/13 by iank]
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AndyW
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 07:28 PM |
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As there are 353 current NHS hospitals in England, £64000 per day spread over all nhs hospitals isn't that much being spend per hospital as you
might think. Let's see what we pay to lazy arse, cant be bothered to get a job, scroungers each day, whilst we go out to a hard days work to
support them????
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 07:41 PM |
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Indeed that's £181 per day per hospital - which would be about 2 hours worth of a decent interpreters time. I'm surprised that's not
the daily wail that's being quoted.
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Wadders
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 07:43 PM |
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Heard a similar thing on the radio today, who knows if it's true but apparently the last government decided to rationalise fire
emergency response centres and created about a dozen regional offices to co ordinate things, after a disaster with implementing IT
systems which cost billions the idea was abandoned leaving around 4 brand new buildings empty.........cost to us the taxpayer to
maintain said buildings...... 4 million a month 
I'm thinking someone is getting very rich from those empty properties, it would be cheaper to fell the things and cut the taxpayers losses.
No wonder the country is in such a state.
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myke pocock
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 07:52 PM |
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Wadders, I believe that one of those over in the North East is to be taken over and used by......... the local fire service. Well I never!!!!!
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 07:52 PM |
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as someone who works for the NHS i can tell you that a lot of people treated have no right for that treatment,they have come here just for the free
house/money/healthcare.
like the one with 3 wives and 15 kids who live in 3 council flats and not one of them work,the old man is on dyalasis that costs a fortune to
adminsiter,he dosnt speak a word of english as everything is handed to him/them on a plate,or the one who arrived at the hospital direct from the
airport for her dyalasis to start...how did that happen ?.
if i went to another country and need healthcare or to speak to the local authoroty i would have to speak the lingo or get my own translater so why
provide them free here ?.
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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jeffw
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 08:13 PM |
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Is this to translate what all the foreign, non-English speaking medical staff are saying to their English speaking patients or the other way round?
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 08:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
as someone who works for the NHS i can tell you that a lot of people treated have no right for that treatment,they have come here just for the free
house/money/healthcare.
like the one with 3 wives and 15 kids who live in 3 council flats and not one of them work,the old man is on dyalasis that costs a fortune to
adminsiter,he dosnt speak a word of english as everything is handed to him/them on a plate,or the one who arrived at the hospital direct from the
airport for her dyalasis to start...how did that happen ?.
if i went to another country and need healthcare or to speak to the local authoroty i would have to speak the lingo or get my own translater so why
provide them free here ?.
Anyone who works for the NHS would know there's specialist teams whos job it is to hunt down such people and ensure the treatment is paid for. I
know quite a few doctors working in NHS hospitals who say it's a reasonably rare event?
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myke pocock
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 08:25 PM |
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.....£181 per day per hospital - which would be about 2 hours worth of a decent interpreters time
£90 per hour for an interpreter??? And you recon thats a reasonable rate??? Your avin a laugh mate!
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iank
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 08:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by myke pocock
.....£181 per day per hospital - which would be about 2 hours worth of a decent interpreters time
£90 per hour for an interpreter??? And you recon thats a reasonable rate??? Your avin a laugh mate!
Have you seen what you get charged by the hour for a main-stealers grease monkey? If there's no real market that's what you'll pay
in the private sector, what the market can bear.
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scootz
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 09:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by myke pocock
.....£181 per day per hospital - which would be about 2 hours worth of a decent interpreters time
£90 per hour for an interpreter??? And you recon that's a reasonable rate??? You're avin a laugh mate!
Don't think anyone would consider it to be a reasonable rate, but I also don't think Mike will be all that far off with his guess as I
remember 'Language Line' costing an absolute fortune back in the 90's... and that was all done over the phone! Factor in a
'call out' fee and it starts to rise further!
The translation providers know it's an essential service, so they can pretty much name their price (especially for agencies who can't
waste time waiting like the NHS and Police).
I don't think you can blame the NHS for this one...
It's Evolution Baby!
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SteveWalker
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| posted on 29/7/13 at 10:00 PM |
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My wife works with the mentally ill. The area she works in is predominantly inhabited by immigrants. She has many genuinely ill patients, but also a
significant proportion of obvious spongers. Many of these spongers speak good English, but suddenly struggle whenever they are challenged about their
own actions, ability to work, etc. Suddenly they require an interpreter - at £200 an hour, with a minimum booking period of 3 hours! This tends to
happen particularly when their DLA is due for re-evaluation - and once it is confirmed, they suddenly manage to speak English again or not bother
making any of their appointments until the next time their benefits are at risk.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 30/7/13 at 06:06 AM |
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quote:Originally posted by theconrodkid
as someone who works for the NHS i can tell you that a lot of people treated have no right for that treatment,they have come here just for the
free house/money/healthcare.
like the one with 3 wives and 15 kids who live in 3 council flats and not one of them work,the old man is on dyalasis that costs a fortune to
adminsiter,he dosnt speak a word of english as everything is handed to him/them on a plate,or the one who arrived at the hospital direct from the
airport for her dyalasis to start...how did that happen ?.
if i went to another country and need healthcare or to speak to the local authoroty i would have to speak the lingo or get my own translater so
why provide them free here ?.
Anyone who works for the NHS would know there's specialist teams whos job it is to hunt down such people and ensure the treatment is paid for. I
know quite a few doctors working in NHS hospitals who say it's a reasonably rare event?
Here in London,it happens all the time,how do you track down someone who lives in a mud hut in the middle of nowhere or gives a false address ?.
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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Peteff
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| posted on 30/7/13 at 09:04 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkidHere in London,it happens all the time,how do you track down someone who lives in a mud hut in the
middle of nowhere or gives a false address ?.
Make them do same as everyone else. I just had to produce my driving license, log book and a recent service bill just to buy a number plate
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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swanny
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| posted on 30/7/13 at 11:00 AM |
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as an aside... when you initially see the 17% increase this is quite shocking, yet it actually appears to be less than the rate of inflation over the
same period. data
nice bit of journalism there.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 30/7/13 at 03:45 PM |
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£90 an hour for a translator? There's an app for that
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owelly
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| posted on 30/7/13 at 04:07 PM |
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How much it be for an online video link to the relevant embassy or language school?!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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jossey
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| posted on 30/7/13 at 06:40 PM |
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In defence of this rather than justification.... I've been to many countries n the hospitals will have interpreters for me n the English etc...
Thanks
David Johnson
Building my tiger avon slowly but surely.
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coozer
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| posted on 30/7/13 at 06:41 PM |
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VOTE UKIP
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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JoelP
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| posted on 30/7/13 at 08:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
VOTE UKIP
You must be joking!
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 30/7/13 at 08:15 PM |
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I don't think £90 is a bad hourly rate for a potentially highly skilled multilingual person who may well have to have medical background to
properly translate, when you factor in call out fees and the usual hike in price for contract work (due to them having unpredictable income).
I've seen folk pay £85 per hour at normal car main dealers before now, and that's for a chap with a spanner.
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