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matthewdavies61

posted on 8/8/13 at 07:16 PM Reply With Quote
Flat pack both mx5 and standard chassis

Hi all has anyone got contact details for flat pack chassis components that I can buy please.

I am looking for mx5 based and the standard version.

While I'm here what does everyone recommend mx5 version or the standard

Thanks
Matt

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Slimy38

posted on 8/8/13 at 07:27 PM Reply With Quote
Talon Motorsport do a flat pack standard;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321165154115

I don't know of an 'off the shelf' MX5 flat pack. There are a few kits with ready-built chassis that are designed for an MX5 donor (Roadrunner SR2 springs to mind). Or a standard chassis can be 'tweaked' for an MX5 donor?

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Not Anumber

posted on 8/8/13 at 08:20 PM Reply With Quote
Talon will do an MX5 kit if you ask him. There aren't a lot of differences but it's best to get them incorporated from the start.

He can also make a replacement diff casing for the Mazda diff that allows it to be hard mounted in exactly the same way as the Sierra diff. He's posted about it on the Haynes Roadster forum as there has been quite a bit of discussion from members about the most feasible way of securing the Mazda diff.






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jps

posted on 8/8/13 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
not the best day to look on the Haynes forum for feedback about Talon! But, current complaints aside, I do believe he has got a fairly good rep at being a good producer of bits and pieces. On the whole I've seen plenty of good feedback about him and his work.

Matt - depends what donor car you can get! From reading a fair few build threads on the Haynes forum it seems to me that Sierra based build gives less grief- the diff mounting for the MX5 looks like it throws up problems - and, although don't quote me on it as I may be wrong, I think there are various problems to iron out with using MX5 front hubs as well...

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Not Anumber

posted on 8/8/13 at 09:14 PM Reply With Quote
I have done quite a bit of research and would advocate the MX5 route

The engines are pretty good and can be made to put out a lot more bhp if required without breaking (Mini supercharger etc)

Though Mazda parts new from the dealer are more expensive than Ford it is the other way round for 2nd hand parts.

The engines are short so do not require a special sump

The engine, cluctch, belhousing, flywheel and gearbox are taken complete, no need to have to adapt and buy bits from oter cars to make them work together

The fuel injection, ignition and ECUs can be taken complete from the donor reducing the build cost and need to match and map.

The MX5 gauges are reasonably attractive and quite easy to adapt so they look the part on a 7.

the uprights are well designed and allow 14" wheels to be used (15" minimum on a Sierra based Haynes)

All the recorded issues with the MX5 diff on the Haynes have been about people experimenting trying to adapt Mazda's method of locating the odd shaped Mazda diff casing onto the Roadster chassis. There is nothing wrong with the Maxda diff it's just the damn weird shaped box they choose put it in. A diff is a diff, replace the casing with a simpler smaller one and it mounts up eactly the same as the Sierra one.






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Slimy38

posted on 8/8/13 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Not Anumber

The engine, cluctch, belhousing, flywheel and gearbox are taken complete, no need to have to adapt and buy bits from oter cars to make them work together

The fuel injection, ignition and ECUs can be taken complete from the donor reducing the build cost and need to match and map.

The MX5 gauges are reasonably attractive and quite easy to adapt so they look the part on a 7.

the uprights are well designed and allow 14" wheels to be used (15" minimum on a Sierra based Haynes)



I reckon you could probably get even more from the donor. Steering column and wheel, switchgear and loom, handbrake with cables, seats, wheels, and I'm sure I've missed some stuff. I'm hoping my £400 donor will provide a huge amount of kit

jps, with regards to the front hubs the only problem I have heard about was the top ball joint. You either have to ream out the hub to accept the transit ball joint, or use a 3 series BMW ball joint (although I don't know which 3 series yet!). A suitable reamer is about a fiver off Ebay, which seems decent for a one-use tool.

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matthewdavies61

posted on 8/8/13 at 10:03 PM Reply With Quote
Thank you to everyone for your help so far, I have looked at talon and didn't see it so I dismissed it.

I was planning mx5 route due to the power that you can get from the engine an would love a small supercharger to go with it but I think this woul be post iva. I'm also planning on making my own removable hardtop if all goes well haha eek.

I also would love a £400 donor mx5 where did you pick that up from I can't see anything lower than 800

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Slimy38

posted on 8/8/13 at 10:21 PM Reply With Quote
Quite simple really, an ebay search set up as a daily email and then six months of waiting! Patience pays off when looking for a donor.

Oddly enough, i'm also thinking about some post-iva forced induction...

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matthewdavies61

posted on 8/8/13 at 10:32 PM Reply With Quote
I just done a quick search on auto trader (national) and found 3 under 500 1 non runner.

I just think a little tinkering after iva is allowed lol. I will also be using this vehicle for a little charity track day fun. I am heavily involved with a welsh children's hospice that my son uses so I think it might be a nice thing to do for the dads group maybe

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Slimy38

posted on 9/8/13 at 07:19 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matthewdavies61
I just done a quick search on auto trader (national) and found 3 under 500 1 non runner.

I just think a little tinkering after iva is allowed lol. I will also be using this vehicle for a little charity track day fun. I am heavily involved with a welsh children's hospice that my son uses so I think it might be a nice thing to do for the dads group maybe


Don't discount the non runner, or any without tax or mot. I got mine delivered home for £40 from a local recovery company. It was roadworthy but SORN so had to be picked up.

Track day charity work sounds like fun, I would probably recommend you do the driving though as it could be painful to watch your hard work go screaming into a barrier...

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matthewdavies61

posted on 9/8/13 at 07:27 AM Reply With Quote
Haha that's true enough I would be devastated lol.

The non runner was engine gone, I don't mind having no mot / tax etc but the engine had gone on that one thanks for printing me to look though. Interesting times ahead I think haha clean garage time

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Talon Motorsport

posted on 9/8/13 at 09:22 AM Reply With Quote
Talonmotorsport will not come up in ebay if you search for it, shop name is Talonproducts.
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