Siduna
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 02:54 AM |
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Alternative to dry sump for Hayabusa engine?
Anyone knows more about this product? Is it a solid option to a dry sump?
http://store.schnitzracing.com/mcintosh-low-profile-billet-direct-pickup-oil-pan-suzuki-gsx1300r-hayabusa-99-15/
http://store.schnitzracing.com/m
cintosh-low-profile-billet-direct-pickup-oil-pan-suzuki-gsx1300r-hayabusa-99-15/
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cosmick
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 08:42 AM |
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Have a look at Rilltech racing. Their sump system is good for 3g according to their info. http://www.rilltechracing.com/products/
If it can't be fixed with a hammer then its probably an electrical problem.
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Dopdog
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 08:50 AM |
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The sump looks great but where does all the oil go? You would not want to over fill into the engine too much
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ReMan
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 09:35 AM |
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Not to diss the product with no personal experience but IMHO "little or no drop in oil pressure during takeoffs" sounds a world apart from
"maintains full oil pressure during sustained high G applications" ?
www.plusnine.co.uk
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fesycresy
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 10:04 AM |
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Holeshot Racing swinging pick up pipe?
Holeshot
I thought Andy Bates made one too, but I couldn't see it on his site.
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bart
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 12:01 PM |
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yes ab do do one , very good quality
I am just about to install one , I will post pictures tonight on my single seater thread
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 12:05 PM |
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That reads like its intended for drag racing and not cornering to me.
Personally I wouldn't recommend swinging pick ups either, if they could turn 360* then yes maybe but they don't and could under some
circumstances be held by cornering forces against the swing stop rather than swinging towards the oil, again these where principally designed for drag
racing, accelerate in a straight line swing back, brake swing forward.
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Dopdog
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 12:29 PM |
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Dry sump it is then 
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cosmick
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 03:26 PM |
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You have to be careful about the orientation of the engine. Swinging pickups are fine if the engine is mounted in the same way as a motorcycle.
However when you turn the engine sideways, the swinging pickup is no longer facing north/south and here lies the problem. Dry sumping an engine does
not matter which way the engine faces as it will always guarantee oil feed to the pump. It would be worthwhile contacting Rilltech and asking about
their sump system and if they have experience of engine mounted sideways.
If it can't be fixed with a hammer then its probably an electrical problem.
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bart
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 03:38 PM |
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my engine is east west like a bike.
having said that ab told me they have know problems with this kit in north south instalation.
he said its a lot better than some dry sumps on the market.his statement was some just dont work
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bart
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 03:40 PM |
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pps I am sure the ab one is a rilltech product. I apologise if its not.
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fesycresy
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 03:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cosmick
You have to be careful about the orientation of the engine. Swinging pickups are fine if the engine is mounted in the same way as a motorcycle.
However when you turn the engine sideways, the swinging pickup is no longer facing north/south and here lies the problem
Duncan Cowper ran one, I seem to remember, in his Holeshot Turbo Dax Rush. He ragged the fcuk out of that!
When I building a 'busa motor I had a Powertec dry sump pan / Nova pump. The SBD looks the best option at the moment though.
I'd avoid the Westfield dry sump - you see these come up for sale second hand often. The pump is belt driven (not direct drive replacing the
water pump) and the brackets fails. Its worth regular checks of the bracket.
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daniel mason
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 03:58 PM |
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Sbd system is very good. Ran one on the radical with supersoft sprint tyres and had no issues with oil pressure at all! Quality kit
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bart
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 04:20 PM |
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think it was the westfield one he was refering to.
just did not wont to name. but if someone else has hey ho !
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bart
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| posted on 7/12/14 at 05:04 PM |
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my apologies mine is an extreme engines sump not ab and the comments came from them
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Nick DV
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| posted on 12/12/14 at 11:11 AM |
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quote:
Duncan Cowper ran one, I seem to remember, in his Holeshot Turbo Dax Rush. He ragged the fcuk out of that!
I'm 99% sure that up to the point Duncan started using a Geoff Page engine, he ran his engines with a stock Hayabusa sump, and he had no issues.
I've got a stock 'Busa sump and had no problems - although I also have an Accusump as a back up 
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