02GF74
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 01:13 PM |
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The Great British Anit-Free Rip off (halfords)
Went to Halfords to buy anti-freeze. £ 17 for 5 litres ready mixed at 50/50 concentration.
So I am paying for water that I can get out my tap for free!!? F*** right off. 
...and what if I want a 60/40 mix? Can't do it without removing the water. Is it because people have become so stupid that they can not work
out the correct concentration or money for old rope (water in this case).
Yours sincerely,
Mr Angry.
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Toprivetguns
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 02:15 PM |
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Get yourself a halfords trade card and save some serious money.
Only drive as fast as your angel can fly... !
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balidey
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 02:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Toprivetguns
Get yourself a halfords trade card and save some serious money.
Agreed, but it is not that easy to obtain for someone that is a hobby / DIY mechanic. You need to provide proof you work in the trade.
Halfords do sell neat anti freeze and screenwash, but the majority of what they stock and push on to punters is premixed. But the main people that go
through their doors are the sort of people that probably do want it pre-mxed and don't know or don't car about the savings.
Dutch bears have terrible skin due to their clogged paws
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steve m
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 03:16 PM |
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Don't buy anything in halfrauds, get it from a motor factors at 1/3 off the price
steve
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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motorcycle_mayhem
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 03:49 PM |
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Question is... what else would I expect from Halfrauds, which is why I don't darken their doorway.
Same thing for B and Q, which appears to be the haunt favoured by the post-industrial majority.
Both establishments simply cater for those with excess funds and little idea of how to use their hands.
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mini-sprite
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 03:49 PM |
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Why not buy straight antifreeze and dilute it yourself?
Paul
When i buy car parts i go on the premise that 'it is easier to beg for forgiveness than ask permission'
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 03:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mini-sprite
Why not buy straight antifreeze and dilute it yourself?
Paul
I rather suspect that's what the OP was implying he would do
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CosKev3
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 04:12 PM |
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The premixed stuff is for topping up surely?
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 04:30 PM |
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I'm confused - are we talking engine antifreeze, or screenwash/antifreeze?
Just that I'm also finding it hard to find screenwash concentrate - I usually buy a 5 litre container of concentrate, but all I can find these
days is ready-mix - which costs exactly the same for the same quantity. Expensive water!
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 04:47 PM |
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Try your local motor factors David
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britishtrident
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 05:04 PM |
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Pre-mix has some justification if you live in a hard water area but in general it is a contrick of the first order.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 05:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
I'm confused - are we talking engine antifreeze, or screenwash/antifreeze?
Just that I'm also finding it hard to find screenwash concentrate - I usually buy a 5 litre container of concentrate, but all I can find these
days is ready-mix - which costs exactly the same for the same quantity. Expensive water!
Methylated spirits is the best additive for stopping the washers freezing.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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shindha
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 05:09 PM |
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I had some of thier concentrate screenwash if that's what your after it smells lovely;
ScreenWash
They do sell concentrated Antifreeze
here but I would'nt be
rushing to buy any from them.
[Edited on 26/11/16 by shindha]
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 05:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Try your local motor factors David
I know - but a few around Ipswich have stopped selling concentrate. One got shirty when I walked in, looked at what was on offer and made to walk
straight out again - he asked if had difficulty finding what I wanted, and wasn't best pleased when I said that I had no interest in buying
ready-mixed fluid.
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02GF74
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 06:23 PM |
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engine anti-freeze.... and I've just noticed i'd written Anit which may have confused some.
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morcus
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 06:27 PM |
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for screen wash have a look in the supermarket, don't know about engine anti-freeze as I get it from a mate who has big barrels of it.
I think most people (as in non-car enthusiast which must be the vast majority of people in Halfords) want premix, TBH I don't have any equipment
to accurate measure fluid volume (I know you don't need accurate stuff to do half and half) and if its something you really don't like
doing you want to make the job as quick as possible and will pay a bit extra to do it. Premix is also likely to be more consistent in the hands of Joe
Bloggs.
Premix is also handy if you have to do it right away on the forecourt.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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owelly
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 08:21 PM |
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Halfords do sell concentrated antifreeze/coolant.
Halfords OAT Antifreeze Concentrate 5 Litres
Item: 798785
Halfords OAT Antifreeze Concentrate 5 Litres
Trade price
£18.74 inc.vat
£15.62 ex.vat
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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gremlin1234
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| posted on 26/11/16 at 08:37 PM |
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engine antifreeze is a complex subject, and often different manufacturers require different products, and mixing them may result in gunge / jelly
mixing oat with ethylene glycol for example: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/cooling/cool_121.htm
and in many ways its as important as the oil used!
for screenwash, I use carpride/151 from the corner shop at £1.25/l at about 25-30% summer, and 50-90% winter, (but then again the car [tintop] is
parked under a tree so has to have a bit better than normal to clean the screen)
ps the hazardous substance data shows circa 20% methanol, and some ethanol, so shouldn't need 'meths' added
http://www.jbsgroup.ie/msds/JA017031%20-%20Windscreen%20Wash.pdf
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02GF74
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| posted on 27/11/16 at 08:45 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by gremlin1234
engine antifreeze is a complex subject, and often different manufacturers require different products, and mixing them may result in gunge / jelly
mixing oat with ethylene glycol for example: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/cooling/cool_121.htm
and in many ways its as important as the oil used!
Long gone are the days when we drove mk 2 escorts to our motor factor corner shop (all closed now) to buy anti freeze of which there was one variety,
the blue flavoured stuff and one type of oil, castrol gtx.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/11/16 at 09:11 AM |
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OAT coolant is also ethylene glycol based the problem is the corrosion inhibitors work in a completely different ways.
In addition to checking the concentration of the antifreeze you can check how much corrosion protection is left in the antifreeze by checking the
PH.
With in service OAT coolant an PH of about 8 is around normal, new 50/50 mix will be about 8.7
http://www.labcheckresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Coolant-System-Maintenance-Guide-FINAL1.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OC9nM0Frb4
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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snapper
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| posted on 27/11/16 at 09:43 AM |
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Local garage monkey filled my screen washer bottle with pure concentrate, I'm still adding just water and it's still to strong
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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kingster996
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| posted on 27/11/16 at 10:06 AM |
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Actually had a good experience with Halfords the other day.
Ordered some gearbox oil to collect, turned up during Friday evening rush hour at my nearest branch which happens to be in the middle of major
roadworks up here (silverlink) and waited while they tried to find my order that was "ready to collect".
After 10 mins got an apology as they couldn't find any despite the system showing 3 in stock.
I was none too happy as I want to put my gearbox in over the weekend.
They suggested trying another branch, to which I replied pointing out horrendous traffic, inconvenience and other such words of dissatisfaction.
So, they rang another branch, arranged collection, refunded my money and delivered it to my door at 9.00am the next day (Saturday). Totally free of
charge.
Can't say fairer than that!
I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure
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mcerd1
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| posted on 28/11/16 at 09:00 AM |
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The ford stuff is pretty good, both the coolant and the winter screenwash
Or if you need old fashioned glycol coolant, the john Deere coolgaurd II stuff is pretty good too
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nick205
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| posted on 28/11/16 at 12:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Try your local motor factors David
Agreed - they're cheaper and usually more knowledgeable about things car related too.
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907
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| posted on 28/11/16 at 02:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Try your local motor factors David
Agreed - they're cheaper and usually more knowledgeable about things car related too.
A visit to my local factors went something like this:-
Morning. 4lts of glycol antifreeze please.
Wos registration?
That won't help as it's a home built car. Just need the blue stuff.
Wos registration?
OK. Q bla bla bla, bla bla bla.
Doesn't come up wiv anyfink.
(quick google on my phone) How about, bla bla bla, bla bla bla, R ?
Computer don't go back that far.
Just give me a couple of those blue cans.
(turns to his mate.) Wos I gotta put on this invoice?
I went elsewhere for the distilled water.
Paul G
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