Triton
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| posted on 22/5/05 at 08:02 PM |
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Kit car crisis again
Sorry to drag it up again but i watched it again last night and oh deary me that will drag kitcars backwards rather than show how standards have been
lifted in recent years.......
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ray.h.
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| posted on 22/5/05 at 08:43 PM |
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8k for the engine alone.I could build three locosts for that and probably have just as much fun.
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chrism
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| posted on 22/5/05 at 09:26 PM |
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I thought it was quite funny that he has spent thousands on the engine and then for the oil cooler he is going to use duct tape on the cooler to
adjust the cooling of the oil and not an Oil thermostat.
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A little hard work never killed anyone, but why take the risk!
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 22/5/05 at 10:13 PM |
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£8k?! What is he putting in that thing?
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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NS Dev
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 07:10 AM |
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In these circumstances I totally agree, but..................in autograss I know of a chap that has spent £25,000 on a Hayabusa engine.
He will probably win the nationals in his class (class 8), he'll certainly be top 3 nationally, but it does sound rather expensive!!
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 08:01 AM |
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Maybe I am showing my ignorane but that oil tank for the dry sump was massive, surely it doesn't need to be that big? (and only supporting it on
three corners seems pretty silly)
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 08:08 AM |
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Yes - that oil tank mounting worried me as well - even if the tank is run half-empty it's still going to weigh quite a bit, plus all the
pounding from the track...
...he doesn't have much mechanical sense, does he? I'm not talking about mechanical knowledge (you have to learn that) but the basic savvy
that tells you that you don't mount something high and heavy at 3 points on small-section steel tubing.
DJ
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donut
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 09:41 AM |
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quote:
...he doesn't have much mechanical sense, does he? I'm not talking about mechanical knowledge (you have to learn that) but the basic savvy
that tells you that you don't mount something high and heavy at 3 points on small-section steel tubing.
It's not just that either, look how he reacted when being driven in that yellow car, it scared the pants off him and he want's to
race....against other drivers....who have had experience...good luck to the fella, he's going to need it!
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 10:16 AM |
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Having looked at the RGB site - it seems he didn't make the first couple of races of the season....
Sounds like some of the RGB lads have been round and helped him sort out the car though, now he has to learn to drive it !
Was watching with the missus at the weekend and it was obvious to both of us that he was starting way above his level. should have started with
something a bit slower !! (maybe a 2cv ?)
Had to question the narator on the program though... will it really manage 0-90 in under 5 secs ??
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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andylancaster3000
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 11:22 AM |
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With an 8K engine I would dam well hope so!!  But I seriously doubt it, especially with road legal tyres. How quickly did that record breaking
ultima take to get to 100? 90 isn't a lot less then that!
Andy
[Edited on 23/5/05 by andylancaster3000]
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NS Dev
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 11:28 AM |
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Ultima did 0 - 100 - 0 in 9.8 secs................................................on road tyres.............................
0-100 was a whiff over 5 secs!
just checked the data, Ultima did 5.067 secs to 90 mph, in 109.69 metres from the standing start.
[Edited on 23/5/05 by NS Dev]
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andyharding
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 11:31 AM |
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It will cost him £1000s to rent a crane to lift the finished car out of his back garden over his house and have telephone cables taken down.
It would have been cheaper to rent a garage and build it there. Or pay a kit manufacturer to let him build it at their shop.
What a dumb ass...
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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paulf
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 03:22 PM |
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I agree he is definitely a dumb ass in a lot of ways, but maybe not financially.He has obviously done it as a money making venture in conjunction
with the TV program.
I have seen it mentioned that he will be paying for the car himself but how much is he making from being filmed building it and showing just how
mechanicaly inept he is?.Surely the crane buisness is just to make better TV ie a drama out of a crisis?
Paul.
quote:
Originally posted by andyharding
It will cost him £1000s to rent a crane to lift the finished car out of his back garden over his house and have telephone cables taken down.
It would have been cheaper to rent a garage and build it there. Or pay a kit manufacturer to let him build it at their shop.
What a dumb ass...
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 03:41 PM |
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the preview of next weeks episode shows him desperately trying to get his sponsors to cough up some cash........
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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andyharding
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 03:45 PM |
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LMAO
Who in their right mind would shell out for a car before they got the money from the sponsors???
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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Spyderman
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 03:58 PM |
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The thing that amused me was when he was talking about the crane lifting the car over the roof.
He said he was concerned about the fibreglass body being damaged when lifted! Doh! Then leave the body off untill outside! Bloody rocket science
this ain't it?
Spyderman
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mad-butcher
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| posted on 23/5/05 at 05:57 PM |
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did any-one notice the size of the shoulder on the rivnuts and the precise method of drilling the holes.
being a bit bias as i thing that martin from MK engineering makes a great product am absolutly made up at the wee taking about the quality of the
dominator chassis and i'm also made up that alan from wlr had the sense to get out of it
tony
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 25/5/05 at 03:37 PM |
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ive not seen the programme yet, but i will as some kind gent on here is taping them all for me........
but one niggle i have is how can you spend £8k on an engine to run in a bog standard engined class, the regs state in no uncertain terms the engine
and box must be as left the factory, the only slack is the clutch, mine took the usual route,
A) bike
B) breakers
C) car.
and £8k would cover 8 blown engines, for me anyway.
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 25/5/05 at 03:47 PM |
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Any chance I could send you a few beer tokens for a copy of that Jon? 
Im struggling with the £8k engine too but I guess its possible to get close by sourcing a brand new busa lump (£3500?), dry sumping it with all the
tarty bits (£1500), then get the engine stripped and blue-printed matching all piston weights within manufacturers tolerences so sticking within the
regs (~£1000??), plus things like a Power Commander (£200), Reverie Airbox (£600), billet clutch centre (£200?) etc
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 25/5/05 at 05:27 PM |
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i'll sort it FOC Chris just cover postage and i'm happy,
Not that many RGB racers go too that length, some do but not many, there pretty potent motors out of the box.
BTW expect R1 prices too go up, the bhp as been raised for class b next season making R1 prob the engine of choice.
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 25/5/05 at 05:59 PM |
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Cheers, much appreciated, is it on DVD or VCR?
Regarding blueprinting etc its a shame it cant be ruled out to cap costs but I guess its almost impossible to legislate against because in theory the
perfect engine could come out of the factory in exactly the same state as a rebuilt and blueprinted engine, so unless you seal engines straight from
the scrapper and don't allow rebuilds (which will up costs) then you can't really stop it.
I didnt see it for myself at Brands but Jim and a couple of others commented that Mike Field's car (with I believe a blueprinted engine) was
noticably quicker on the straights than Tim Gray's. I spoke to Tim at Stoneleigh and he said that his is just a straight scrapper engine so
probably is a few horses down compared to those that dont mind spending out on the engines.
Fingers crossed R1's won't go up too much (if at all!), although Im not planning on needing another one just yet! Im not sure how it will
affect prices TBH, I dont recall the blades going up huge amounts when Class C first took off but I might be wrong?
cheers
Chris
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