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posted on 6/4/06 at 08:02 PM Reply With Quote
CEC vs BEC

I just wanted to know how many people support each side (sorry you can't choose both even though i know you wouldn't want too!)

so what will it be?

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posted on 6/4/06 at 08:07 PM Reply With Quote

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posted on 6/4/06 at 08:07 PM Reply With Quote
A poll, very disappointing. I thought that was a challenge, a real grude match, between the two sides. 1 trackday, 10 BEC's, 10 CEC's. 0-60, 1/4 miles, quickest lap etc etc.

Points for reliability, reversability, speed, number of gears, rev limit.



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posted on 6/4/06 at 08:09 PM Reply With Quote
maybe one day! if someone wants to take on setting something like this up?
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posted on 6/4/06 at 08:11 PM Reply With Quote
im finding my bike engine completely inappropriate for road use, its just too quick to be safe, and too hard to drive slowly. With a car engine it was much more sedate, you could actually drive legally with a little effort. Thats unfortunately out of the window now. I was blitzing down a road the other night and came across 3 cars going slowly (ie at the speed limit), was contemplating just whizzing past all three flat out, but decided id had enough irresponsible driving for one day. Lucky call, as the rearmost one was a marked police car! Still rather embarassing as i slowed onto his bumper from a red line overrun

So on the whole, i find it rather depressing, as im sure to kill myself soon

btw, i voted bec anyway, we all know why we're here

[Edited on 6/4/06 by JoelP]

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posted on 6/4/06 at 08:15 PM Reply With Quote
sounds like a BEC would be fun for the first month but then you'll want a nice long rest for a month?!
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posted on 6/4/06 at 08:17 PM Reply With Quote
i guess its simp[le to say BEC's for tracks and CEC's for cruise and road. I have only had a ride in a BEC. how fast is standard 2.0 pinto CEC 0-60?
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posted on 6/4/06 at 08:25 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
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how fast is standard 2.0 pinto CEC 0-60?


I asked that a couple of months ago, and the general consensus was about 6 secs 0-60 with a std pinto. (Gives a power to weight of about 170bhp/tonne based on a 600kg car - thats a tad more than the bog std elise).

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posted on 6/4/06 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
thats not bad as standard - for £250 lol
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posted on 6/4/06 at 08:46 PM Reply With Quote
bike engine, if it's too fast for ya get rid of it!!
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posted on 6/4/06 at 08:48 PM Reply With Quote
haha (nice car btw!)
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posted on 6/4/06 at 08:53 PM Reply With Quote
Errrr.... both but not girly 4-pot cec





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posted on 6/4/06 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
looks like the CEC's are going to 'drive' away with it
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posted on 6/4/06 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the compliment James....... I assume a read it correctly, you like the sound of BECs as they go by............


Personally, 5th year driving BECS and still love em, can see the reasoning behind a CEC for road use though, but i ain't reached the fed up point yet, cant see it happening either.......






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posted on 6/4/06 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
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I use BEC to start my motor!

They do sound nice though...

As you go by...

But I think I will sit on the fence..

this is very true!! - that they sound awsome

[Edited on 6/4/06 by iscmatt]

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posted on 6/4/06 at 09:40 PM Reply With Quote
depends how old you are, Im 26 and I would have nothing other than a bec, 7's are designed to be driven hard, if you want to poodle around buy a hilman imp!
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posted on 6/4/06 at 09:50 PM Reply With Quote
im gona hang out for the cec variety

at the recent westie weigh in a fairly standard megabusa came in at 520kgs (i know this can be a lot lighter). my fairly standard Vx westie came in at 535kgs. ive got 215bhp, the busa 170
power to weight ratio is king and the bec's just dont have it.

at the ne7ers trackday there were a number of bec's and cec's. i was following cooooooose down the back straight (hes got a light R1 striker) and was lifting all the way down to stop burying it into the back of him. at that trackday there were a number of quick cars, they were all cec.

personally i dont rate the bec as either a trackday car or a road car. they just dont have enough power





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posted on 6/4/06 at 09:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hicost
....... there both as much fun...


now that the truth but would you do the GOME in a bec?





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posted on 6/4/06 at 09:58 PM Reply With Quote
Busa turbo running 580bhp at the wheels try and tell me thats not quick!! went out in holeshots its like a missile!
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posted on 6/4/06 at 10:11 PM Reply With Quote
with a cec you always seem to be changing gear and bouncing of the rev limiter, becs are good for corner entry and exits, tight back roads, and gear change, BUT you need some serious bec power to keep with a good cec on a long straight, the only advantage with a bec is you get a good start out of a bend, becs do seem to go better than what they do.
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posted on 6/4/06 at 10:17 PM Reply With Quote
GOME?
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dilley

posted on 6/4/06 at 10:22 PM Reply With Quote
WHY WOULD'NT I??
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dilley

posted on 6/4/06 at 10:28 PM Reply With Quote
i KNEW THAT WAS COMING, WHEN IS IT??
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posted on 6/4/06 at 10:33 PM Reply With Quote
JUST CONVERTING FROM BIRD TO BUSA POSSIBLY TURBO, SO IF ITS READY I MIGHT JUST BE THERE, ONLY JUST REALIISED WHAT YOUR RUNNING, NEVER MIND BETTER TO REGRET SOMTHING YOUVE DONE THAN SOMTHING YOU HAVENT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A RIDE IN YOURS JUST COMPARE _ YOU NEVER KNOW I MIGHT DITCH THE BEC!( NEW I SHOULD HAVE READ THE LINK PROPERLY!!)

[Edited on 6/4/06 by dilley]

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posted on 6/4/06 at 10:53 PM Reply With Quote
Ive had both,

x flow westie great for road use cruising round on summer nights and still plenty of power to kick the sh1t out of the boy racers when you need to.
BEC now ive got an R1 indy, bloody brilliant frantic acceleration good handling (same as a CEC) and fearsome sound. good for track days and motorsport but you wouldnt want to drive to the south of france in one and back..................you pays your money and you takes your choice.





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