Mix
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:04 PM |
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Lessons from TOL
I'm sure I'm not alone in being concerned for the future of this forum.
In my opinion it is in danger of degenerating into a soapbox for the views and opinions of the minority.
I joined this forum shortly after the demise of TOL so I can't comment on why TOL fell out of favour but from the comments of others I feel the
reasons may have parallels on LB today.
I would like to think all of us joined LB for similar reasons, an interest in car building, so perhaps it may be advisable to 'live and let
live' and get on with the real task in hand.
I, for one, will not comment on an issue that I have no personal experience of and will not respond to a thread I feel is offensive. In my opinion
this is the quickest way to consign the thread to history, rather than keeping it alive by continual discussion.
I would welcome comment from those with more knowledge of the TOL situation as I feel we could all learn from this example.
Mick
[Edited on 26/4/06 by Mix]
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Hellfire
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:08 PM |
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If I knew what TOL meant I would comment on it... as it is, from reading your post I cannot comment so I shouldn't post. IYSWIM -
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mookaloid
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:13 PM |
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Please enlighten us - TOL?
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JoelP
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:17 PM |
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keep up at the back! tol stands for 'the other list' and is a predesessor to locostbuilders 
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Wadders
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:18 PM |
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'The other list', refers to another locost related forum which degenerated into mayhem and resulted into a few peeps being banned by the
draconian moderators.
Knew somone would beat me to it! 
Originally posted by mookaloid
Please enlighten us - TOL?
[Edited on 26/4/06 by Wadders]
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Mix
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:18 PM |
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TOL
The Other List, a previous forum for the likes of us.
As I said I joined LB after it's demise, but there were plenty of threads laying it's failure at the feet of public bitching and
backbiting.
Hopefully one of the more longer serving members will give a better explanation.
Mick
Note to self......read the post before posting rather than editing out the mistakes 
Mick
[Edited on 26/4/06 by Mix]
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Mr G
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:19 PM |
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[Edited on 26/4/06 by Mr G]
Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a
car that you are still paying for - in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes
and the car, and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it.
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I love speed :-P
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:19 PM |
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TOL - The Other List it was and still is on yahoo groups, but it isnt as busy as it was as everyone is on this site, i also am worried that LB will go
the same way as TOL
Edit - i am wayy to slow
[Edited on 26/4/2006 by I love speed :-P]
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UncleFista
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:21 PM |
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TOL = The other list
The original Yahoo Locost "group" was a mine of information when the Locost boom started, was almost all on-topic posts and a mine of
info.
Eventually collapsed under a suffocating weight of bitching and backbiting.
Chris W was a relative noob to the list and saw the writing on the wall and started Locostbuilders.
TBH I reckon the site is so busy now we need a moderator or two, I'm amazed things have lasted so long, all the other boards I frequent are a
"lot" more combative than here
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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jos
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:25 PM |
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Which other list, where when how why.........phew
Obviously I'm not old enough to know about TOL so I just need to KEEP QUIET IN THE BACK
.: Motorsport / motor racing circuit / track wall art Apex Traxs :.
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:25 PM |
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I kind of agree with these sentiments BUT...
When something either offends or incenses me I find it very hard not to comment....
Then again my partner thinks I'm an opinionated bugger at the best of times so maybe it's just me.... She loves me realy....I
think....
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!! 
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iank
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:28 PM |
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All forums with open membership tend to go this way occasionally. Not really suprising since the world is full of the helpful, the wise, the
argumentative, the clowns, the muppets, the noobs, trolls, the odd sociapath Why would we be any different.
Having strong moderators is a double edged sword, since the line between moderation and censorship is impossible to draw.
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mookaloid
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:45 PM |
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I think most of the stuff on here is reasonably constructive/amusing/harmless and I wouldn't want to lose that.
I think that recent arguments have happened, blown up, been resolved and gone away with everyone seeming to settle down again afterwards.
It ain't broke really so why fix it?
Cheers
Mark
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:52 PM |
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ah i remember TOL even mild mannered me managed to get banned from there
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 05:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
ah i remember TOL even mild mannered me managed to get banned from there
OK i'll ask the question....What for?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!!
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Mezzz
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 05:47 PM |
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Na
We dont need them.
Support Free Speach support danish!!
Support Free Speach Support Moderator Free Chat Rooms
I think that 99% of the time this forum room is frendily and polite
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fesycresy
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 05:47 PM |
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Has anyone been banned from this forum ?
If not, how would you go about it ?
Just curious, thats all
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The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 06:14 PM |
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it was a long time ago,cant remember the subject but me and another member on here were having some banter,nothing serious,we got banned and fled to
the safety of this site,plenty others soon followed.
maybe my mate c***s could remember the details?
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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DorsetStrider
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 06:48 PM |
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I've not been banned from anywhere! I feel sooooo left out!
Well I say not anywhere but that's not entirely true. I've been banned from the ladies changing room at my local gym!
Who the f**K tightened this up!
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Jasper
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 09:24 PM |
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Moderators - bad idea
We all know what and who we are talking about here - ignore them and they will go away - they just thrive on arguments and confrontation.
Rememeber - it always takes at least two people to have an argument.
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bob
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 11:26 PM |
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Funny, i had a chat with chrisw only this week and he mentioned people looking after the site as he is too busy and possible moderators,i',m
sure someone wil have have to service the technics of the site from time to time but i dont want to go the way of TOL.
I like it when i post a question during the day and get an answer back within the hour, sometimes within the minute
On TOL you post and you wait and wait
Anyway
The arses come and go, my only gripe with this site is the search system,if someone out there can write a database program for us can they please
contact chris as he said he would be more than happy to let someone sort it
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iank
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| posted on 27/4/06 at 08:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bob
The arses come and go, my only gripe with this site is the search system,if someone out there can write a database program for us can they please
contact chris as he said he would be more than happy to let someone sort it
You can use google to search the site, well it's better than the search feature provided.
put site:www.locostbuilders.co.uk into google before the search strings/usernames etc.
Not perfect (searches photo archive and only gets updated when google re-scans. But I find it useful.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/4/06 at 09:29 AM |
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Even talking about this is self-defeating -- no ?
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DarrenW
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| posted on 27/4/06 at 10:48 AM |
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The thing i like about LCB is that someone can say something potentially out of line. We all jump and correctthat person to the error of their ways.
If that person needs help 10 minutes later on another thread we all rush to help out as best as we can. To me this is brilliant.
By virtue of our hobby we are all a touch eccentric. The written word is notoriously difficult to pick up any tone from. i like LCB the way it is and
have never lost any sleep through it (unless you count staying up till the early hours on it!!).
It aint broke so doesnt need fixing.
Anything Else section is the correct place for non-technical oppinionated posts. We all have the option of not reading this section. all of the
technical sections are without issue so that itself tells me the site is just perfect and tickety boo.
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wildchild
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| posted on 27/4/06 at 11:07 AM |
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If you don't like a topic, don't read it.
If you take anything you read on here or any other internet forum personally, you probably need to lighten up a bit. It's not the same as
having a conversation, there are people who will say stuff which they wouldn't say to your face. Just let it wash over you. Do unto others as
you would like them to do unto you, but don't be too upset when the occasional person doesn't.
I don't think there is a problem on this forum. Moderated forums always lose a bit of the harmless/fun banter because noone knows how a
moderator is going to react to it. And we don't want that do we?
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