IainB
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| posted on 14/1/07 at 08:52 PM |
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GT Legends
Just ordered the game  I know there are a couple of guys on here who have it, opinions?
I was a huge fan of the early Gran Turismo series due to the older cars and proper handling, less electronic aids! Iv played a few racing sims since
then but have always felt the driving aids spoilt it slightly. The GTR demo I played was pretty nice so im hoping GT Legends will be similar, but with
a bit more 'feel'.
Although my system is above the minimum spec I am starting to think it may struggle a bit:
AMD Semperon 2400+ (1.66Mhz actual speed?)
1Gb RAM DDR266
128Mb Geforce FX5200 graphics card
Will the graphics card hold the game back? Anyone looking to get rid of theirs?....
Regards,
Iain
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flak monkey
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| posted on 14/1/07 at 08:54 PM |
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GTL and GTR 1 and 2 are all awsome games. They take a lot of practice. Buy yourself a force feedback steering wheel, you just cant drive well on the
game with a keyboard or gamepad.
Your graphics card will be the weak link. Invest in a geforce 7xxx series card, such as the 7600 , they arent expensive and you will be able to play
all but the newest games in high quality.
http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=GCX-AN76GS256
David
[Edited on 14/1/07 by flak monkey]
Sera
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IainB
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| posted on 14/1/07 at 09:03 PM |
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Thanks David, yes I tried GTR with the keyboard and it just wasnt happening! Once I set the gamepad up using both analogue sticks it was much easier.
Its either a new card or a new wheel... not both!
If i got a new graphics card (say the 7600) would the CPU run out of steam before the card did? I just dont see the point in gettng a fancy card if
the CPU isnt up to it. Iv been looking at the 6800, would that be any good?
Iain
[Edited on 14/1/07 by IainB]
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flak monkey
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| posted on 14/1/07 at 09:11 PM |
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The 6800 will be more than adequate. I am currently running a 6600GT in mine and i can run all of the GT* games in full.
The CPU should be able to keep up with the GPU without too much of a problem. The GPU does all of the handling of graphics in games, the CPU deals
with the game physics. GTL isnt too physics heavy (not like an FPS or anything) so it should be fine.
[Edited on 14/1/07 by flak monkey]
Sera
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Dillinger1977
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| posted on 14/1/07 at 09:18 PM |
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Hi Iain
If you liked GTR you'll love GTLegends as the cars are far more lairy and fun to slide around, its a lot more forgiving
you'll probably struggle with the graphics card, it was a hell of a system hog when I was working on it but it should have been optimised a lot
before release!
The cockpit graphics hammer it the most (very detailed), so if its too slow you might have to play without the Dash visible to speed it up a bit.
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Dillinger1977
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| posted on 14/1/07 at 09:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
GTL isnt too physics heavy (not like an FPS or anything) so it should be fine.
heh, I think youve got that the wrong way around fella. 
-Rog
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Moorron
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| posted on 14/1/07 at 09:28 PM |
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ive got all 3 in the series and founf gtr1 to be the hardest, gtl the most fun (drifting) and gtr2 the best visually.
I founf gtl to be much harder on my system than any of the others.
ps, dont laugh at the elan, it may be small and slow but it out corners any of the bigger cars.
Sorry about my spelling, im an engineer and only work in numbers.
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I love speed :-P
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| posted on 14/1/07 at 09:29 PM |
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GT Legends is great, you will love it
There are quite a few of us on here, we should play online sometime
Don't Steal
The Government doesn’t like the competition
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flak monkey
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| posted on 14/1/07 at 09:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dillinger1977
quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
GTL isnt too physics heavy (not like an FPS or anything) so it should be fine.
heh, I think youve got that the wrong way around fella.
The physics in a game such as GTL arent actually that complicated. OK they are for a racing game, but when compared to a game such as FEAR or similar
FPS they are pretty tame when it comes to the physics engine. In the newer FPS games you have ragdoll physics which is hellishly CPU heavy along with
particle physics to deal with. Havok is one of the biggest physics engines used in games. Fear is also very heavy on the GPU needing a lot of pixel
shading and vertex shaders. 
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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IainB
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| posted on 14/1/07 at 10:46 PM |
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Dont even mention FEAR, that game was starting to take over my life and that was just the demo! I live in a student flat so we all loaded it up and
played over the network, was a good laugh pinning each other to the walls!
The 6600gt seems to get good reviews, is yours the 128 or 256mb? whats your other spec?
Iain
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flak monkey
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| posted on 15/1/07 at 07:52 AM |
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Its a 512mb 6600GT
Rest of the spec is:
XP3000+ CPU
1.25Gb PC3200 DDR RAM
Creative X-Fi Gaming sound card
Thats about all that matters. 
FEAR is great in multiplayer mode
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Dillinger1977
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| posted on 15/1/07 at 08:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
quote:
Originally posted by Dillinger1977
quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
GTL isnt too physics heavy (not like an FPS or anything) so it should be fine.
heh, I think youve got that the wrong way around fella.
The physics in a game such as GTL arent actually that complicated. OK they are for a racing game, but when compared to a game such as FEAR or similar
FPS they are pretty tame when it comes to the physics engine. In the newer FPS games you have ragdoll physics which is hellishly CPU heavy along with
particle physics to deal with. Havok is one of the biggest physics engines used in games. Fear is also very heavy on the GPU needing a lot of pixel
shading and vertex shaders.
yep I know all that, I make games (using havok atm infact) . im just saying you are vastly underestimating how much physics is in GTL.
Just the tyre data alone is quite frankly mindboggling in its depth.. 
its not Burnout, thats for sure.
[Edited on 15/1/07 by Dillinger1977]
-Rog
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mstepien
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| posted on 15/1/07 at 09:23 AM |
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I hope it's still somewhere around the initial subject. Has anybody here played the Live for Speed ? Graphics maybe not as astonishing as in GT
Legends but the drive itself
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flak monkey
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| posted on 15/1/07 at 10:17 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dillinger1977
yep I know all that, I make games (using havok atm infact) . im just saying you are vastly underestimating how much physics is in GTL.
Just the tyre data alone is quite frankly mindboggling in its depth..
its not Burnout, thats for sure.
Heh I was just making a comparison thats all. The physics in GTL/GTR are astonishing for a racing game most certainly!
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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IainB
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| posted on 15/1/07 at 12:04 PM |
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Alrighty, im bidding on a few 6 series cards so should have something soon. GTL will certainly look much better than gran turismo 2 but wel just need
to see how much of my life gets wasted away on it....
Heres a pic of GT2 when I had an emulator on my PC!
and for those who havent seen it, here is GTL:
Thanks for the advice guys, excellent as usual...Now get back to the garage!
Iain
[Edited on 15/1/07 by IainB]
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