jos
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 07:44 PM |
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Westfield in the news
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-5877942263554216
150&hl=en-GB
[Edited on 29/10/07 by jos]
.: Motorsport / motor racing circuit / track wall art Apex Traxs :.
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worX
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 07:56 PM |
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Cleaner cLars... Wicked...
Steve
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stevec
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:03 PM |
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Two words, "F**k Brussels"
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smart51
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:09 PM |
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That's why you need to dump your pinto and get a BEC. Lower fuel consumption. Oh, and faster too.
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BenB
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:12 PM |
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It's so silly!!!! One cow has the same impact on the environment as the average 4*4.... What next, catalytic converters for cows?
I reckon if you got all the miles done by every Westfield in the country it wouldn't amount to even 5-6 cows 
Stupid....
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:13 PM |
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must have been a quiet day in the news room that week!
10 mins on that! WOW!
interesting stuff, but I doubt it will have a major impact IMO. small kit car manufacturers dont make enough cars of each model for type approval, so
surely a similar rule of limited numbers will help here too... each car is relitivley unique so CO2 will have a similar disperate range.
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Guinness
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:13 PM |
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Balanced reporting, my arse.
Where was the bit on the electric Indy?
Mike
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blakep82
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:20 PM |
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think a tory government is needed if that MP is anything to go by...
that Glynnis woman was just asking for a slap
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blakep82
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BenB
It's so silly!!!! One cow has the same impact on the environment as the average 4*4.... What next, catalytic converters for cows?
I reckon if you got all the miles done by every Westfield in the country it wouldn't amount to even 5-6 cows
Stupid....
and isn't it something like 1 volcano erruption emits more co2 than any human activity ever has? why not start banning volcanos? and breathing.
if everyone stopped breathing, we'd all be better off.
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designer
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:28 PM |
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But this might stop small companies selling turn-key cars.
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thepest
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:43 PM |
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I wonder,how will this effect the SVA testing....
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Jimbob
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevec
Two words, "F**k Brussels"
^^^ i agree 
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damien
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:47 PM |
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carbon this and carbon that....
the only carbon im intrested in is carbon fibre 
Topaz gti6-tb 205 Gti (ph1.5)
Sigma 2.0 8v 306 XSI (ph1)
Provence 1.9 8v dturbo (ph2)
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nathanharris1987
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:48 PM |
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global warming? anything to do with the fact we're still coming out of an ice age?
We all know that carbon footprints in their calculation dont cover the "hidden costs" behind an individual's or companys
undertakings. It's probably one of the hardest things to do... quantify what we take from around us, right now our beady eyes are soaking up the
energy our computor screens are producing and talking about whats "green".
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stevec
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:57 PM |
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What about the carbon footprint from all the lighting to make the ugly bint in the report look good
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blakep82
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 08:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevec
What about the carbon footprint from all the lighting to make the ugly bint in the report look good
she SURE was
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flange nut
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 09:30 PM |
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quote:
if everyone stopped breathing, we'd all be better off.
No, we would be better off if all the MPs and MEPs stopped breathing.
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MikeR
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 09:35 PM |
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if you don't believe the climate is changing, you've heard we're still coming out of the ice age / the world is flat / cows emit
more CO2 than humans then ....
go read the new scientist. They did a thing a little while ago on the 20 myths of climate change. Every excuse i've heard for it not existing
was debunked in a very reasoned and scientific way.
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 10:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
if you don't believe the climate is changing, you've heard we're still coming out of the ice age / the world is flat / cows emit
more CO2 than humans then ....
go read the new scientist. They did a thing a little while ago on the 20 myths of climate change. Every excuse i've heard for it not existing
was debunked in a very reasoned and scientific way.
I agree, however I do not think that targetting all car manufactures (including kit cars which get very limited use) is the best place to start.
Surley the 80/20 rule applies here, target the big boys and worry about tiny issues later?
We still get a large chunk of our electricity from coal/gas fired power stations in this country when better options (environmentally speaking) are
available, but becuase nuclear power will loose votes few politicians have the balls to make THAT call, so they will medle elsewhere.
[Edited on 29/10/07 by Dangle_kt]
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RK
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| posted on 29/10/07 at 11:56 PM |
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So a cat has to be put on. So what?
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Simon
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 01:25 AM |
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I'm not convinced the climate is changing. Until recently it was called global warming, now it's climate change. So does that mean
it's getting cooler, getting warmer, weather patterns are changing. What exactly.
500 years ago, the Thames froze over regularly. A 1000 years ago, it was so warm in this country wine grapes were a very common crop.
The earth is always changing, but we are the onlybeings to have noticed, and some think it might be our fault.
Those "some" are the people in, say the US, where the budget for "climate change" has gone from a couple of million dollars 20
years ago, to iro $2.5 billion/year now. If you're a scientist, seems like a very good business to be in at the moment.
Don't get me wrong, having read Alan Weisman's book (The World Without Us), the human race really is effing up this planet, with the
dumping of plastics, nuclear waste and numerous other toxins - most of which will be around for a very very long time. I do do my bit and
recycle cans, paper, plastics (at my own expense in addition to usual council collected rubbish), glass and "green" waste.
But, if the government/local authority start taxing me (ie by taking my rubbish away by weight), they'll be taking a lightweight bag of
ash away every week. At least my "carbon footprint" (said with contempt) will be instant rather than delayed via decomposition etc).
I didn't watch the vid for more than a minute, because a) Brussels is for the most part, unelected, b) is corrupt, and c) I found her voice
incredibly irritating.
Oh yeah, they'll probably try and close my business down at some point, because there is two things that are expected to far outlast the human
race. One is the plastic bag, the other being bronze artwork!
ATB
Simon
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RK
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 03:13 AM |
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All I asked about was whether a catalytic converter would really be all that bad. I don't care what people think about the planet.
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smart51
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 08:30 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
I'm not convinced the climate is changing. Until recently it was called global warming, now it's climate change. So does that mean
it's getting cooler, getting warmer, weather patterns are changing. What exactly.
Simon
They've changed the name so it must be untrue
quote:
Originally posted by Simon
500 years ago, the Thames froze over regularly. A 1000 years ago, it was so warm in this country wine grapes were a very common crop.
No. The Thames never froze regularly. Even if it did, the fact that it doesn't now means that it must be warmer, right? Grapes were not a
common crop in the UK 1000 years ago. The climate didn't change that frequently. Data shows it has been stable for the last few thousand years
save for one really cold spell when the thames did freeze and the last 150 years or so. What CET data shows is that since 1988 the temperature has
risen steadily and quite differently to the previous 300 years. It is quite evident that the climate is changing. The only possible dibate is why,
not if.
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smart51
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 08:32 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RK
So a cat has to be put on. So what?
How with that help the planet? Catalytic converters make CO2 out of CO, Hydrocarbons and soot. They also drive up fuel consumption by
restricting the engine's gas flow, causing the driver to put their foot down further to make the required power. They make exhaust gasses
"cleaner" don't think they make less pollution though.
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fesycresy
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 08:51 AM |
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Perhaps they should channel their energies into altering the minds of the Americans and Chinese ?
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