macspeedy
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 12:34 PM |
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I hate this country and its archaic rule
Well that is me well and truely pi$$ed off.
At the end of last year i was running with nine points on my licence, with eleven days to go i get caught! 71 in a 60 on a sunday on a really straight
dry bit of road. Therefore under the totting up law i should be banned. It takes the system AGES to figure this out, The police offer you a fixed
pentaly which i accept, gets bouced under the totting up, local fiscal then offer same it gets bounced. Gets to court my lawyer didn't tell me
you need to take the counter part of your driving licence with you, so delayed another 2 weeks. So i am licence-less for 6mths 3 points heavier and
£120 lighter!!
Thing is those of you who know me know that i haven't worked for quite a while due to depression, just when i am about to get back to work and
get my life on track they do this to me. What utter B******S. The judge listened to my lawyer for all the good it did.
But if you have 2 wifes its ok! FFS
sorry to not have something that brightens your day but driving points are mentioned on here quite often.
Graham
[Edited on 25/4/08 by macspeedy]
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02GF74
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 12:46 PM |
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Oi!!! Cheer up mate. At least you weren't caught for stealing a
bicycle
and if you think that is bad, take a read through this
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 01:06 PM |
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Bummer....... but typical of this country to hammer the motorist at every opportunity. 6 month ban seems excessive but i dont know what the norm is to
be fair.
What has your solicitor said about the length of the ban and a possible appeal??
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Moorron
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 01:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
Oi!!! Cheer up mate. At least you weren't caught for stealing a
bicycle
and if you think that is bad, take a read through this
And there lies the cause of the first problem, if the person who owned the bike knew the police would arrest the guy who stole his bike they wouldnt
have 'tought him a lesson'. Alltho death is way OTT it sent the message to his mates that they wont get off scott free. or to anyone that
now even joe public have 'lost their marbels' and that the criminals arnt as untouchable as they first thought.
It depends on how you value yourself but one way to deal with your problem is to just drive a common looking car on a false plate, no tax, no
insurance, no mot and a good chance of not recieving a fine. If you cant beat them then join them.
Sorry but i am having a bad day at work.
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Puk
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 01:49 PM |
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Well UK isn't all bad. I'm over here in Denmark and just returned from collecting my asthma prescription - pretty mundane stuff which in
the uk sets me back £5 a pop. But here, in the high tax socialist society, where every one is taxed into equality - £100.
I guess that this counts as a thread hijack - unless we can use if for general Friday PM moaning 
[Edited on 25/4/08 by Puk]
Before you judge a guy, walk a mile in his shoes. Then when you judge him, you're a mile a way and you've nicked his shoes.
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82 Locost
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 01:52 PM |
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Unfortunatley I have to disagree to some extent. There are published laws and a lot of history on motoring offences, so a ban should have come as no
surprise.
It's a shame when it happens to one of 'us', but I personally don't think it makes it any less fair.
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DarrenW
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 02:01 PM |
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i guess the timing is a bit bad if you only had 11 days to go.
Why would you have got away with it if you had 2 wives?
I recall a mate of mine getting caught at well over 100 on dual carriageway. Ended up with hefty fine a 2 week ban (or maybe it was 4 week). Did they
not offer you heavier fine or some driver training?
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Moorron
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 02:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Puk
Well UK isn't all bad. I'm over here in Denmark and just returned from collecting my asthma prescription - pretty mundane stuff which in
the uk sets me back £5 a pop. But here, in the high tax socialist society, where every one is taxed into equality - £100.
I guess that this counts as a thread hijack - unless we can use if for general Friday PM moaning
[Edited on 25/4/08 by Puk]
yeh i must admit my comments are alittle 'friday moaning' for me. as the thread has gone right off topic then get this....
Today one of our designed tippers fitted to a transit came back for a warrenty claim, the lower frame has cracked. Ive spend 10 minutes around it to
come to the conclusion its been stupidly over loaded (max payload around 1200Kg), signs show its had about 3000Kg on it.
I have had to create a report on it for those in the know and what does the sales guy tell me? That its been under designed!  Its legal max has been
exceeded and no one has the balls to tell the customer to go and get stuffed. Instead i am blamed for not designing it right, ive wasted a day and
when the boss comes back i will then have to prove it all with some FE and actual load testing to repeat the failure.
Sorry about my spelling, im an engineer and only work in numbers.
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macspeedy
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 02:19 PM |
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Man with 2 wives
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macspeedy
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 02:21 PM |
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The thing that really gets me is yes i shouldn't have been doing that speed but do we really need all these camera and all these police men
sitting about taking picture of cars! There should some sort of fairness rule, there was a guy out there that racked up 38 points before he got banned
38 i say!
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designer
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 02:38 PM |
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The police are just another nationalized industry to generate revenue for the crown.
That's why I left.
I was caught doing 110 on the Paris motorway. 40euro fine and a good laugh with the policeman.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 03:03 PM |
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bit ot i know but just heard someone has been shot dead in a "barbers shop" in harlsden.
its amazing the number of "barbers shops" there are around london,no-one has hair to cut but they are always busy....and plod is looking
the other way.they will always go after the easy target
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 03:15 PM |
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But if you have 2 wifes its ok! FFS
Really feel for you mate this cuntry is fecked and the above quote sums the whole thing up. Or are we racists?????????
I don;t care what they say I ain't racist but I am patriotic.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 03:42 PM |
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Sympathies Graham.
Son was given 9 points for doing a handbrake turn in an empty carpark. Girl in same court, 85mph ! in a 30 limit, fluttered eyelids and staggeringly
let off with 3 points and £60 fine . Even her solicitor was speechless.
Latest from son was 18 months ago. 40 in 30 limit on open dual carriageway in Hull (Clive Sullivan Way for those who know). Pleaded guilty paid
ticket. It was then returned to him along with fine as they had suddenly taken the decision to prosecute further! FFS what do they want?
We took it to court and even though everything was wrong on ticket, type of car, amount of passengers, time etc, the first of many judges gave police
and CPS 3 months to come up with further evidence, later, 2 judges got fed up and gave them 7 days. Then a new judge who ignored the 7 days or else
notice from the previous judges gave them till this coming Sept to come up with further evidence. So it's still ongoing and has cost thousands
so far.
Son wanted to take a ban and get it over with. They won't let him, makes me wonder what they have in store !!!
Rob
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Peteff
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 04:53 PM |
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Girl in same court, 85mph ! in a 30 limit, fluttered eyelids and staggeringly let off with 3 points and £60 fine .
I thought double the limit was an automatic license grabber, was she topless as well.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 04:55 PM |
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Well my recent experiences has you know have left a very bitter taste in my mouth and a bit of f**k you attitude when it comes to our friends in
blue.
I have it confirmed 72 in a 70 in a VW transporter van is £60 and 3 points. Now if it was a motor home / mini bus on exactly the same chassis its just
fine.
So any boys in blue on here explain ??? And don't come "we don't make the law we only enforce it" Ever heard of common sense?
Pull me up and give me a talking to ? At 72 in a 70 I feel victimised, I'm sorry but you tax collecting methods alienate the general public.
Rant over.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 05:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
At 72 in a 70 I feel victimised, I'm sorry but you tax collecting methods alienate the general public.
I hate the scamera pratnerships simply because they are lying, cheating scum. They have no interest in road safety, they are only concerned with
catching people over an arbitrary limit (which may or may not be safe to drive at) and extracting money from them. (for the record I've not been
caught by a camera....yet).
That aside, technically you were doing 72 in a 60 as that is the speed limit for a goods vehicle with a maximum laden weight over 2 tonnes. Lots of
van drivers have fallen foul of this, even though it's not a recent change.
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smart51
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 05:43 PM |
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Hang on a minute, you brake the law 4 times, getting prosecuted each time with 3 points each time. Even with 9 points and knowing you'll lose
your licence if caught braking the law again you do it and get caught. AND you think that the country is to blame?
I know we all like driving on here but you have to admit you've brought this on yourself. What would you think if someone had grafittied your
house 4 times, been caught and prosecuted 4 times and only on the 4th time been given a punishment that should stop him doing it again, but only for 6
months?
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macspeedy
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 05:58 PM |
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I think the country needs to reform its laws, they " the police " are there to protect us, there must be so many people out there now that
have lost there licence due mainly to the fact that there are shed loads of speed cameras out there now. Remember Top Gear interviewing the guy that
makes the decisions about these sorts of things and he had 9! This thread was meant as a release of steam thats all. Time to dust of the push bike.
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macspeedy
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 06:02 PM |
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Another thing when i am "down south" (England that is) on the motorways if you are doing 70 you'll be passed by people doing well
over this!
Graham
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macspeedy
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 07:12 PM |
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Thanks for the votes of sympathy guys
Happy locosting
I'll be back !!
Graham
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davie h
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 07:15 PM |
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this is what the targets do
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 07:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by davie h
this is what the targets do
Pity he didn't think what the poor train driver has had to go through.
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davie h
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 07:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
quote:
Originally posted by davie h
this is what the targets do
Pity he didn't think what the poor train driver has had to go through.
i agree all i was trying to point out was th effects on some by imposing strict targets
oh i,ve never been in the mind set that i wanted to kill myself but i doubt that he was thinking of anyone train driver,family ,friends or the
colleagues who had to pick him up
Davie
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oldtimer
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 08:49 PM |
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Speed limits are designed to protect pedestrians and other road users, children, cyclists, motorcyclists and drivers from others and ourselves. Speed
kills, speeding in urban areas kills a lot. I am not a policeman but honestly believe they are necessary - the only problem is that law abiding people
stick to them and dangerous people exceed them - intentionally or not - hence the need for speed cameras. Yes, it is the job of the police to protect
us.....from speeding motorists.
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