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Can anyone make me one of these?
mr_pr - 4/2/11 at 02:07 PM

Can anyone make me one of these to fit on my nosecone grill?



On a side note, anyone know a decent company that could powercoat this one off item?

If you can could you PM me with a price please....

Thanks

Ed


jossey - 4/2/11 at 02:31 PM

+1


lewis - 4/2/11 at 02:42 PM

How about a group buy on a full 7 type grill,prob won't cost much more I would be up for one if anyone could assist.


Steve Hignett - 4/2/11 at 03:09 PM

I could draw round one for you?

I don't have the time to draw one in SW, although I could if really really needed...


hootsno1 - 4/2/11 at 03:15 PM

If someone has drawings for the gril (the right size) i may be able to get these done at work ally and poss stainless


daviep - 4/2/11 at 03:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jossey
+1


I thought you were selling up Dave ?


fastnova - 4/2/11 at 03:31 PM

If someone can give me some basic sizes I can knock up a CAD drawing and get a price to have them laser or water cut and if desired even mirror polished, or anodised.

Obviously a group buy would work out much cheaper, the more the merrier...


lewis - 4/2/11 at 03:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by hootsno1
If someone has drawings for the gril (the right size) i may be able to get these done at work ally and poss stainless


Yes please !! Scootz sold one this week so maybe be able to get a drawing from who ever bought it before it's fitted,I'm sure you would sell a few to make it worth your while


Humbug - 4/2/11 at 03:57 PM

I did mine myself - see here

More details here


lewis - 4/2/11 at 04:23 PM

hers a pic of the grill no measurements though.


https://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=45&osCsid=18baecb6690a0e128046444f416af4a7


mr_pr - 4/2/11 at 05:00 PM

My plan was to try to get this made and then powdercoat it orange to match the highlighting on my car...

Good to see a lot of people getting involved. I will (after the weekend) CAD one up if people are keen? Then if anyone knows someone who can get it cut I will send the drawing to them? Alternatively with so much need I will look into having them made.

I could buy one of ebay but they are £40 which I think is a bit much? What do you guys think?

Ed


dhutch - 4/2/11 at 05:15 PM

I could get one cut at work, as long as from 10mm mild steel plate....


But no, seriously, it wouldnt be stupid for someone to get 50 cut out and to sell them on, although i already have the westfeild one i acquired with the car.


Humbug - 4/2/11 at 05:30 PM

If they are £40 on ebay I think I would get a "real" one from Cateringvan: £40.80 (presumably plus P&P) linky

[Edited on 04.02.2011 by Humbug]


Mix - 4/2/11 at 05:34 PM

Hi

Sorry if I've missed the point here but isn't this an attempt to copy the Lotus / Caterham 'badging'?

Why build a Locost / MK / MNR etc and rebadge it as above?

Why not be proud of what you've built and badge accordingly?

No offence meant.

Regards Mick


lewis - 4/2/11 at 05:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mix
Hi

Sorry if I've missed the point here but isn't this an attempt to copy the Lotus / Caterham 'badging'?

Why build a Locost / MK / MNR etc and rebadge it as above?

Why not be proud of what you've built and badge accordingly?

No offence meant.

Regards Mick


Because I like the design of the cateringvan one.


fastnova - 4/2/11 at 06:27 PM

If only one or two are wanted then I can put a bit of ally or stainless sheet between some plywood and just CNC mill it out.

If lots (10+) are to be made then laser or water cutting is the way forward, whichever is cheaper... Sub stuff out for both at work so can probably get it done cheep. Also use a professional polishers so could have ally ones in mirror finish, same goes for anodizing.

Also have a proper paint shop at work with some real nice quality kit, 2-pac paints and the sort so could have them spayed for near nothing. Choice of colours would be a bit limited though, an army green which is similar to British racing green and a canary yellow are the only colours we use in bulk, but there might be one or two others.

As for powder coating, can’t help with that one.

Also, if in stainless have the option to run an oxy torch over them and create that nice tempered look in a few colours (straw, pale blue, electric blue and purple are the easy ones to get) but wouldn’t be the most consistent finish, or heard wearing for that matter.

Has any thought been given to how they could be attached? Cable ties or similar could look a bit messy, but maybe add some thin little lugs here and there that could be bent around the grill to hold it on.


Jonathan

[Edited on 5/2/11 by fastnova]


lewis - 4/2/11 at 06:38 PM

The cateringvan ones have 4 prongs 2 top, 2 bottom,I put a link up in this thread to the pic which shows them,prob the best way of attaching them.


fastnova - 4/2/11 at 06:40 PM

Ahh yes, turns out i'm not as cleaver as i thought...


mr_pr - 5/2/11 at 09:35 AM

I dont want the caterham one as I want to attach the 7 onto my grill as it is.

With regards to attaching it I wasn't entirely sure. Maybe have prongs added to the design that could be bent onto the grill? Is there any sort of metal bonding strong enough that could attach something to the rear an then cable tie/bolt? TIG something on the back?

If we can think of an idea I will try to draw something up, I will get some prices (either from companies or people on here who have access to the required equipment) and see how much demand there is in a new thread.


quote:
Originally posted by Mix
Hi

Sorry if I've missed the point here but isn't this an attempt to copy the Lotus / Caterham 'badging'?

Why build a Locost / MK / MNR etc and rebadge it as above?

Why not be proud of what you've built and badge accordingly?

No offence meant.

Regards Mick


Unless I am missing the point, aren't all sevenesque cars rough copies of Lotus 7's?


scootz - 5/2/11 at 10:36 AM

I don't get it either.

The '7' is a Caterham car and the logo is a Caterham logo.

Sure, many of us drive Seven insprired cars, but all cars have been inspired by a predecessor. When you drive an MNR, an MK, a Luego, etc. then it's not a Seven - it's an MNR, an MK, a Luego, etc.

Anyway, on a separate note... can anyone make me a Prancing Horse to bung on the bonnet of my Freelander!


loggyboy - 5/2/11 at 10:38 AM

Where in hants are you? if local I'l powder coat it for ya for beer tokens. I have an electrostatic magic kit and its pretty good.


mr_pr - 5/2/11 at 08:03 PM

Can you do a range of colours?

Sounds good though, not in Hants anymore (need to update) but can post!!

Ed


lewis - 5/2/11 at 08:23 PM

So whats was the outcome of this? Is there anyone who could provide the measurements for
1.whole grill
2. 7 logo
& was there anyone who could make them/possibly a group buy.


fastnova - 5/2/11 at 09:03 PM

I think the whole grill would be a tricky one as they are usually made from lots of bits of wire welded together. Not so easy to do on small batch at a good price. Unless someone knows of another way to make them.

As for the “7” logo, I’m happy to knock up a detailed CAD drawing if someone can provide some basic dimensions (height x width) from there I can work out a price depending on batch size.


Jonathan


loggyboy - 5/2/11 at 09:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mr_pr
Can you do a range of colours?

Sounds good though, not in Hants anymore (need to update) but can post!!

Ed


I currently only have black and orange. But they powders are cheap as chips from electrostaticmagic. You buy the powder, and il coat it for free if I can keep the left over powder!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carlfothergill/new/powders.html

Check my photo archive for my build stands I did a while back.

[Edited on 5/2/11 by loggyboy]


mr_pr - 6/2/11 at 09:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by fastnova
I think the whole grill would be a tricky one as they are usually made from lots of bits of wire welded together. Not so easy to do on small batch at a good price. Unless someone knows of another way to make them.

As for the “7” logo, I’m happy to knock up a detailed CAD drawing if someone can provide some basic dimensions (height x width) from there I can work out a price depending on batch size.


Jonathan


Ok, LOTUS 7 GRILLE BADGE CATERHAM 7 SUPER 7 GRILL EMBLEM on eBay (end time 15-Jan-11 20:13:55 GMT) is the ebay advert I saw a while back, saved but never got round to doing anything.

It describes the dimensions to be 8 inches / 20cm wide and 7.25 inches / 18cm high.




quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by mr_pr
Can you do a range of colours?

Sounds good though, not in Hants anymore (need to update) but can post!!

Ed


I currently only have black and orange. But they powders are cheap as chips from electrostaticmagic. You buy the powder, and il coat it for free if I can keep the left over powder!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carlfothergill/new/powders.html

Check my photo archive for my build stands I did a while back.

[Edited on 5/2/11 by loggyboy]


Awesome. As soon as I have the badge I will be in touch. Orange is the colour I am looking at so we can work out some beer tokens at the time?

Ed


lewis - 6/2/11 at 11:44 AM

orange for me too

about the whole grill it could be made from one complete piece of sheet,does not matter if the bars are flat that would look kind of cool & easy to do on a waterjet...maybe


fastnova - 6/2/11 at 01:00 PM

It would be possible to make a hole grill out of a single piece of stainless, couldn’t use ally though as I don’t think it would be ridged enough.

Would be a few problems with it though, huge amount of de-burring/rounding edges, and would cost quite a bit, taking a large piece of sheet and turning it into nut much = huge material cost + lots of time on the water cutter...

That’s why they are usually made from wire.

That aside it would look pretty good having the “7” logo as part of the grill rather than just stuck to it.


Jonathan


lewis - 6/2/11 at 01:13 PM

When you say expensive per unit what we talking? If say 50 were made I'm sure they would all be sold here/eBay & would be worth someones while.


Miketheconn - 6/2/11 at 01:42 PM

I much prefer Rusty Nuts and dlatch's grills

Here

Bow if someone could knock up something like dlatch's that would be brill


fastnova - 6/2/11 at 02:09 PM

If your making it out of a single sheet then the sky is the limit, something like that would be more than possible, all you need to do is draw it in CAD save it as a .DXF file and give that to the laser/water cutters. They can import the dxf straight into the machine and off it goes. Sort of...


fastnova - 6/2/11 at 02:19 PM

Hard to say off the top of my head as never had any done personally, but as you say, they would be quite different and certainly nothing else like it out there that I know of.

Ok, can someone provide some good dims for the whole grill, and the location of the little lugs that hold it in place?

If someone can fill in the gaps on this sketch than I should be able to get it the right shape and size.

Grill
Grill


The dims that are in the middle of the grill are a measurement from half way between the centre line to the outer edge, that should give me an idea of the curve and get the shape right.

Also, what kind of numbers are we talking about for a group buy?


Jonathan

[Edited on 6/2/11 by fastnova]


lewis - 6/2/11 at 03:21 PM

Can't help with measurements but put me down for one,maybe be worth starting a list.


mr_pr - 6/2/11 at 09:03 PM

Ok, well I don't want a full grill, I just want the 7 Logo as in my OP. So, if people can put their preference when they show their interest then it will make it easier for everyone to work out who wants what!

I am going to try to cad up just the logo and look at the cost of getting them made.

Ed