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Tyre wear on the Nordschleife
Hakuraa - 2/8/15 at 11:48 AM

Hi chaps,
Can anyone give me an indication of how abrasive the Nordschleife please. I am booked on both days of the DN13 event and so need to know if my Toyo R888's will last for both days (currently about 4mm left) or whether I should fit a new set just for this event, previous experience is in someone else's road car for a few laps.
Car is a MAC#1 Worx ZX10, so with driver is going to be in the 600-620Kg region - no I am not build like an F1 driver - geometry set up for track/fast road use.
Cheers,
Andy.


bi22le - 2/8/15 at 03:26 PM

Do you drive like an F1 driver though? !

I saw no more excessive wear both times i went but i didn't drive it hard.

Track conditions are good so expect no more wear than a normal track day.

Is DN13 a public day or closed circuit? I would expect you to do no more that 10 laps a day on a public day due to queues and stoppages.

10 X 2 X 11 (mins) = 220 mins of track time max.

If your getting to the legal limit then stop! I only did 4 laps a day i think.


Hakuraa - 2/8/15 at 05:00 PM

Not even in my head, there are far better drivers than me!

DN13 is a closed track day for both days, so hopefully plenty of track time, with only 150 cars allowed out on track at once it will a mile away from a public day. Fuel consumption and tank size should let me stay out for 3 laps at a time as it is purely the Nordschleife circuit not the VLN layout, however the elevation changes and higher average speeds may change this plan.


jps - 2/8/15 at 06:24 PM

(I say this with ZERO practical experience, although if I'm wrong I'd be interested to know why)...

Isn't that area know for changeable weather/the track so big it may be dry at one part/wet elsewhere?

I would have assumed that, even with tyres with poor water clearing properties, you'd want to have as much tread depth as possible, incase you end up on a damp bit?

Or put another way, not worth the risk given a potential benefit and especially as it's a consumable that you'll replace regardless sooner or later?


twybrow - 2/8/15 at 06:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jps
(I say this with ZERO practical experience, although if I'm wrong I'd be interested to know why)...

Isn't that area know for changeable weather/the track so big it may be dry at one part/wet elsewhere?

I would have assumed that, even with tyres with poor water clearing properties, you'd want to have as much tread depth as possible, incase you end up on a damp bit?

Or put another way, not worth the risk given a potential benefit and especially as it's a consumable that you'll replace regardless sooner or later?


What he said! The ring is made up of lots of different surfaces, in all manner of environments, so if it were me, I would change them and keep your current tyres for a track day or two closer to home.


750mc - 2/8/15 at 07:07 PM

+1.

Hell of a place. Get the best gear you can on it.


austin man - 2/8/15 at 08:37 PM

some really good sections and some concrete if you nailing it then you will see wear as said the weather tends to change at the turn of a hat


Hakuraa - 13/8/15 at 07:46 PM

Thanks for the replies and advice, new tyres ordered, roll on September