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Called into Road Runner Racing on my way home tonight,as I had heard that they had got there new mx5 based 7 up to the rolling chassis stage,and was
interested to see how it looked,I was not disappointed,what do we think?.
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i like,dont like the wheels tho
not keen on the wheels, and would prefer more squared off cycle wings, but thats really cool... interesting front end
Yes I agree,they did say they are just a set of old wheels to roll it round the workshop,I am told its designed to run on 13" rims.
When will someone do something different for a change instead of yet another 7....looks like the FW400 westy in some ways so not an original idea
ok so i now know what my next build will be,
looks very sleek,
like the look alot x between westy and mk, ??
chassis looks well designed also,
will give you a call on this paul,#
so are you treating yourself for xmas
cheers
sean
Here's a picture of the rear,with the built in rear under tray and diffuser..jpg)
Niiiiice lines. I like it.
sweeeeet
nice rear end nearly as nice as j lo 
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Originally posted by Triton
When will someone do something different for a change instead of yet another 7....looks like the FW400 westy in some ways so not an original idea
Few things spring to mind ....
Westfield will be talking to their lawyers - cause that looks a bit like a westfield and i think will take potential customers
He still hasn't learn to triangulate the engine bay - its a gaping bit hole unless i've missed some tubes!
He's finally solved the wing stay breaking problem
GRP is VERY nice
Nice. Looks the part.
I can't understand why companies do this; it is going to run on MX5 donor parts. Where are builders supposed to get their parts as there are even
fewer MX5s about than Sierras.
One would have thought that it would have been better to pick a donor that is plentiful now and for many years to come.
I agree with Humbug, the market is ripe for a full bodied car. The last one that I fancied was the Storm; can't remember who manufactured it.
[Edited on 22/12/09 by se7en]
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Originally posted by se7en
One would have thought that it would have been better to pick a donor that is plentiful now and for many years to come.
[Edited on 22/12/09 by se7en]
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Originally posted by James
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Originally posted by se7en
One would have thought that it would have been better to pick a donor that is plentiful now and for many years to come.
[Edited on 22/12/09 by se7en]
But what does that leave?
Beamer and maybe Merc' is all you've go isn't it?
I am surprised more people don't go Beemer. Are there disadvantages? I'm guessing it's too heavy and front uprights are an issue without mods?
Cheers,
James
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Originally posted by tegwin
What we need are some decent looking cars that take the transverse engine from a mundano/focus/Golf.... and stick it behind the drivers seat.....
gkd legend 6.... or 4 if you're scared of torque
there are loads of mx5s about and always someone breaking one on mx5nutz.
they'll never be £50 like a sierra (more like £500) but it's all a lot more suited to a far higher calibre of finished car. if i could start
again, i'd happily use 5 running gear, but i have one as my DD so perhaps i'm biased.
the engines are a world away from ford's offerings and 250bhp is easy with a turbo on stock internals.
tom
ETA : it's unfortunate they've used what looks like a copy of the fw400 bodywork. the nose is ugly! i'd consider one if the MK
glassfibre fit though.
[Edited on 22/12/09 by indykid]
As Tom says above there are lots of old mx5's around over 50 thousand sold in the uk alone,you can pick a rusty or accident damaged one up for around £500,but the main advantage in using the mx5 bits is that they are all good quality very light weight items,the front and rear uprights for example are tiny little things,rear axles are lsd,you can even use the original dash and loom,there are also lots of after market tuning options for the mx5 engines,soI think it makes good sense as a doner vehicle.
front upright with hub, bearings and studs.
4.325kg
most 1.8 imports come with torsen lsd, type 1, type 2 or tochigi fuji (cross between torsen and cone clutch). 1.6 imports mostly come with viscous
lsds but most have died by now. mine's on 150k km and the engine still purrs and is smooth as you could ever ask. the diff's just about
still locking.
mx5 parts supply genuine and pattern service parts at rock bottom prices.
what we should really be asking is why are kit manufacturers still sticking with ford?
tom
Aren't the Ford engines really cheap though? And can't you find Transit parts fairly reasonably over there? Damaged MX5 are expensive here
in Canada, but the parts are easily found, and not pricy.
Agreed on the Westy resemblance though; that was my very first thought, right up to the nice scoop on the left.
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Originally posted by indykid
front upright with hub, bearings and studs.
4.325kg
most 1.8 imports come with torsen lsd, type 1, type 2 or tochigi fuji (cross between torsen and cone clutch). 1.6 imports mostly come with viscous lsds but most have died by now. mine's on 150k km and the engine still purrs and is smooth as you could ever ask. the diff's just about still locking.
mx5 parts supply genuine and pattern service parts at rock bottom prices.
what we should really be asking is why are kit manufacturers still sticking with ford?
tom
I like it, chassis looks good, hope the geometry is good. I like that the floor is triangulated, makes me wonder why the indy isn't? I always
look at my floor and think there is absolutely no triangulation in it.
I'd like to see it on 13"s
That looks very FW to me. I wonder if Westfield could say anything?
Looks like a one piece tub too, suprised more haven't opted for this.
Is he planning on a full scale assault on the kit car world, like the old MK days?
Should take some orders, looks good.
[Edited on 23/12/09 by fesycresy]
I need to look at this, always been impressed with RRR's manufacturing standards.
From the pictures, yep, I think the body (if that's the final version) will definitely get the Westfield factory a bit annoyed.
The chassis looks rather solid, well triangulated in all the important areas. Where my Westfield lacks rear end strength around the diff (and
exhibited some tube cracking), Kevin's clearly got the area well covered.
As for all this talk over donors, well, yes, you can still get a Sierra diff if you want one, or a Freeloader, or anything. The fact that this kit is
prewelded for rusty MX5 stuff, doesn't mean you've got to fit it! Anglegrinders are freely available.
Hope this project works (sells) it's going to be tough times ahead in the marketplace methinks.
OK, gotta go. Actually FOUND A JOB, I'm delivering groceries for Tescos (hopefully avoiding the crashing coaches and police cars). Hoping the job
keeps going after the Xmas mayhem, but it's not looking good. Let's hope the postmen go out again, so I can get a few hours in. Just nothing
down here in the South West.
When I spoke to dax a few weeks ago they're designing a car on bmw running gear as there's plenty of them around. not going to use the
engine though as they have trouble with the wiring So weren't looking at the engines.
MX5 is a good idea however they're aren't as plentyful as 3 series etc.
Heres a picture of the front upright,as you can see they are very small,as light,but no doubt stronger than the raceleada set up I had on my old
Indy.The suspension is fully rose jointed front and rear as standard,the chassis is all round tube laser cut,it looked strong but was very light when
I lifted it.The chassis has been designed by Dave flavel,AKA (Mad Dave),the same guy that designed the new MK Indy R,so Ive not doubt its going to
handle as well as it looks.
I would agree with the comments that it has a look of a westfield FW400 etc,which is not a bad thing,but I think there's enough differences not
to cause problems with westfield,Road Runner Racing have made there own moulds etc so I cant see a problem, the quality of the bodywork was one of the
things that impressed me the most,certainly on par with westfield,I will be looking forward to seeing this car completed over the next few weeks,and
sat on a set of 13" wheels
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Is the lower shock mounting adjustable
That looks like it uses the rose-joints articulated so that the bolts run top-to-bottom as in a formula car. Will be interesting to see if there is enough freedom of movement under bump and droop, particularly in a road set-up.
Yes Alan,both front and rear are adjustable for ride height,very trick
I was just thinking it looks a little strange.
Curious as to the pricing of this - from what i've seen the bodywork does look like it should be on an expensive car.
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Originally posted by Humbug
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Originally posted by Triton
When will someone do something different for a change instead of yet another 7....looks like the FW400 westy in some ways so not an original idea
...like a full body car, maybe?
What happened to that project?
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Originally posted by MikeR
Few things spring to mind ....
Westfield will be talking to their lawyers - cause that looks a bit like a westfield and i think will take potential customers
He still hasn't learn to triangulate the engine bay - its a gaping bit hole unless i've missed some tubes!
He's finally solved the wing stay breaking problem
GRP is VERY nice
Are they housings for projector headlights on the side? If so, I reckon it'll look great when lights are fitted Quality of the GRP
looks good too. Gonna have to pop down there after Christmas to have a closer look. It looks promising....
Phil
One thing I will say from having an early Striker, one piece nose/bonnets are an utter PITA!
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Originally posted by Hellfire
Are they housings for projector headlights on the side? If so, I reckon it'll look great when lights are fitted
Phil
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Originally posted by MikeRJ
One thing I will say from having an early Striker, one piece nose/bonnets are an utter PITA!
,I think having it in one piece gives the car much better lines.
very very nice but how much is the kit?
IrvineD has made his into a one piece and seems to really like it!
It's a nice enough kit, but is there really a market for yet another Se7en?
looks pretty good to me
My 7 days are done but if i was in the market for one then i'd deffinately take a closer look (like the diffuser)
As for the question a lot of people ask " is there a need for another 7 manufacturer"
Well that depends on what they bring to the table, to me that car albeit from a few pictures, seems to have a really nice rear end (ooerrr) unlike the
slab backed ones that most sell.
It's hard to see much of the chassis, but if it is really built from all laser profiled tube, then the accuracy is going to be pretty much spot
on, so as long as the design is good, it will probably rank up there with the best of all 7 chassis.
On a different note, having dealt with Kev at Road Runner Racing a few years ago when i had the single seater, i'm sure any buyer will not find a
more honest and helpfull manufacturer out there.
Good luck with the project. (green's not my thing though )
Chris