Bad news. Sympathies mate. They were prolly trying to catch everyone on the way to the superbikes at knockhill. And they still say it's not just for cash. Barstewards.
Got a notice of intended prosecution through the post this morning.
98mph on the M6 up near carlisle, it was a sunday morning 11am with perfect conditions and very light traffic.
What do you think ill get? ill definalty be going to court i know that much but whats likleyhood it will be a ban?
[Edited on 18/7/06 by Gav]
if you look it up you can find the guidance to judges. I think under a 100 you're ok. pepido or what ever is useful.
http://www.pepipoo.com
Loads of advice in the FAQ and judicial progress section.
Cheers thats most helpful.
Yeah i recon under 100 you should be ok. I saw a prog on telly where a traffic cop on the motorway said they don't bother chasing anyone unless
they are doing over 90 and you're not that far off.
Let us know what happens.
Bad news.
Sympathies mate. They were prolly trying to catch everyone on the way to the superbikes at knockhill. And they still say it's not just for cash.
Barstewards.
For 100.0MPH on the A3(M) I got 5 points and £350 fine. They will ask you to fill out a means (earnings etc) form and the fine will reflect your
earnings. In otherwords they'll screw you for as much as they can, the guy before me got fined £800!
Too be honest if thats what i got id be more than happy, its losing my license im worried about.
If you have a clean license it would be very unlucky to lose it for one offence, especially if it would affect your ability to do your job.
I got a NIP after the mrs got caught by a mobile speed camera van doing 36 in a 30 zone.
I asked to see the photo to clarify who was driving (couldnt remember honest guvnor) and they said it would be no good as it was of the back of the
car. So after I gave her a bolocking for driving PAST a speed camera van I told the constabulary that as 2 people are insured on the car and we were
both off work that day we couldnt figure out who it was.
They sent back another letter saying under section 172 of the road traffic act or whatever I had to identify the driver.
What plod had failed to tell me was that the next line of the act say about showing due dilligance in identifying the driver.
So i sent another letter again saying we were both off, both drive the car and that i had shown all due diligance in identifying the driver.I then
asked them how we should best proceed. That was over a year ago, nothing since.
quote:
Originally posted by Brooky
I got a NIP after the mrs got caught by a mobile speed camera van doing 36 in a 30 zone.
I asked to see the photo to clarify who was driving (couldnt remember honest guvnor) and they said it would be no good as it was of the back of the car. So after I gave her a bolocking for driving PAST a speed camera van I told the constabulary that as 2 people are insured on the car and we were both off work that day we couldnt figure out who it was.
They sent back another letter saying under section 172 of the road traffic act or whatever I had to identify the driver.
What plod had failed to tell me was that the next line of the act say about showing due dilligance in identifying the driver.
So i sent another letter again saying we were both off, both drive the car and that i had shown all due diligance in identifying the driver.I then asked them how we should best proceed. That was over a year ago, nothing since.
In my last 'camera encounter' the photo was from a Truvelo (forward facing) but didn't show the me at all due to reflection on the
window. Shame I'm the only registered driver!
Of course, if it was "a fair cop" you may get a bit more leniency by humbly admitting guilt rather than poking around for a loophole...
However, if you are sure that you didn't go that fast at any time, then it's morally correct to check out every option and to challenge them
if possible.
just my 2p's worth
David
Reminds me of a neighbour of mine who got stopped on his BMW bike by a traffic cop... "shall we call it 99mph, sir?"
[Edited on 18/7/06 by David Jenkins]
Hehehe iv got one of them sitting on my coffee table waiting to be sent back. 84 on the A14 at cambridge a couple of weeks ago. Funnily enough on my way to Bryan Hamlets to collect some bits for my locost.
quote:
Originally posted by Gav
Too be honest if thats what i got id be more than happy, its losing my license im worried about.
make sure you emphasise how much you need your license. That said, its almost certainly 6 points for 98mph. I swung 6 for 105 by explaining i drove
for a living.
Aparently, you can only plead undue hardship once in your life though. But i dont think you even need to here anyway, no chance of a ban.
So when where you caught, cause i was on the M6 that same day and was doing well over 100 between penrith and carlise!
quote:
Originally posted by Krismc
So when where you caught, cause i was on the M6 that same day and was doing well over 100 between penrith and carlise!
annoying thing when i was caught is i had a note saying something like "asking for the photo is only allowed when you are in court". I thought bugger that and took the 3 points (it was me driving, i was going to fast, i'm the only insured person so no argument really).
quote:
They will ask you to fill out a means (earnings etc) form and the fine will reflect your earnings. In otherwords they'll screw you for as much as they can, the guy before me got fined £800!
Thanks for the reminder, i'm off to dig out mine!
I thought that they were only being put in "accident black spots"?
I thought they had changed the law - so that you couldn't challenge for the photo now - I hope I can stand corrected.
I had a Lotus Elan 1.6se Turbo in 2001 - and a sodding caravan overturned on the A14 just after Huntingdon (my first day in new job had to meet
Director in Ipswich!) - I cleared the caravan (might have been James May practicing?) and toed it big time - 160mph in places - I kept seeing a car
chasing me - but thought nothing of it - got to a 50mph section before Ipswich and a cop car came flying up behind me - I'd just braked for a
fiesta - and pulled over and waved him by - he shook his head and pointed to a Parking area - I stopped - he acted like I had stolen the car!
They were just about to set up a 'stinger'
Average speed over 10 miles = 99.89 mph.
£600 fine and 6 points!
So good luck - unlikely you'll lose your licence!
As a resident of the Antipodes I must admit to be a little bemused by the sentiments being expressed in this thread. I assume the posted limit on the
motorway in question is 70? (on good, divided carriageway here it's 110 km/h which is near enough to 70 mph). If so, you were exceeding the
limit by nearly 30 mph and BREAKING THE F*CKING LAW! What are you moaning about! In many countries there would be absolutely no arguing about how
many points or pounds - 30 over would be instant loss of licence and a BIG fine. In Oz, 35km/h over is instant suspension and (something like) $1,000
- about £400. Yes, that's right - exceed the limit by 22mph and lose your licence - no arguing.
If you don't like a law then you can complain about it and try to elect governments who'll (hopefully) change it. You can't just break
laws you don't like.
And omega 24 v6 - means tested fines make good sense because, for the guy with 100,000 in the bank, a 300 fine is just a fee that he pays to do
something that you or I can't afford to. He has to pay more or else the deterrent effect is lost.
Dbarclay....
With respect, I should keep quiet about your Gran taking points. That seems to be treated as a VERY serious offence, much worse than speeding.
Which is why i took my points, i broke the law therefore i should pay the penalty. I honestly believe a copper would have given me a talking too &
what i was told about the photograph was wrong which is why i'm annoyed.
What gets me is the way we all want to be able to drive faster than the limit, i've never understood why, i think partly because we're so
insulated from the road in modern cars & partly for the adrenalin rush.
quote:
Originally posted by TheGecko
As a resident of the Antipodes I must admit to be a little bemused by the sentiments being expressed in this thread. I assume the posted limit on the motorway in question is 70? (on good, divided carriageway here it's 110 km/h which is near enough to 70 mph). If so, you were exceeding the limit by nearly 30 mph and BREAKING THE F*CKING LAW! What are you moaning about! In many countries there would be absolutely no arguing about how many points or pounds - 30 over would be instant loss of licence and a BIG fine. In Oz, 35km/h over is instant suspension and (something like) $1,000 - about £400. Yes, that's right - exceed the limit by 22mph and lose your licence - no arguing.
If you don't like a law then you can complain about it and try to elect governments who'll (hopefully) change it. You can't just break laws you don't like.
And omega 24 v6 - means tested fines make good sense because, for the guy with 100,000 in the bank, a 300 fine is just a fee that he pays to do something that you or I can't afford to. He has to pay more or else the deterrent effect is lost.
quote:
Originally posted by Krismc
So when where you caught, cause i was on the M6 that same day and was doing well over 100 between penrith and carlise!
Judas Priest had a hit with the song "Breaking the Law", not that it will help anyone here.
I got nicked for speeding in my yoof....
It was the early hours in the morning but still a loverly clear summers day. It was a road I drive every morning on my way to work and I knew every
pothole, white line, strip of overbanding, manhole cover etc.. The road is the A169 from Whitby to Pickering and it's a great strip of moorland
road. The only car I saw that morning was a crappy old Cavalier. In fact I saw it twice. The first time when I passed it and the second time when I
came screaming up behind me with some fancy lights behind the grill......
So, in responce to our Antipodean chum, there is a time and a place. I know when the speed limit is appropriate and I respect that. There are times
when it is ridiculous and outdated. I know someone who has on occasion, possibly, driven well over the speed limit. It may have been on the same
stretch of road previously mentioned and it may have been in the early hours of the morning, but when this alledged person does get a ticket,
he'll have to offset it against all the times he didn't get caught!
The trouble he faces now is, the early hours are full of wrinkly old bikers out before the traffic!!
Incidently, there have been a few fatalities on the aforementioned stretch of road and most of them have involved American tourists who
"didn't realise how fast the traffic was moving". These folks have just pulled out into the path of traffic doing 50-60mph!!
When out driving, remember folks, it's not 'you' you need to watch out for (because you're not coming the other way!) it's
the other drivers who don't expect anyone to be going faster than they are!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by TheGecko
.
If you don't like a law then you can complain about it and try to elect governments who'll (hopefully) change it. You can't just break laws you don't like.
A couple of years back my mate got a 3 week ban and £270 fine but no points for 96mph but it was his second offence in 6 months.
I think if you get caught doing a fair lick, drive like your gran for a year and you'll be ok. Best bet, get a road angel or similar device that tells you where all the camera spots are.
Finally got the notice today,
£200 fine
£35 costs
and 5 points
so to be fair im quite happy with that as i was expecting a larger fine
quote:
Originally posted by Lawnmowera colleague of mine got done for doing 76mph on the a14 - national speed limit, i said to him that i thought you had a 10%+2 leeway, he said yeah, but as it was a transit for work, its classed as a lorry? so is only allowed to do 60mph! he got 3pts, bring his total up to 6 (the 1st 3 were at the same camara - stoopid bugger)
Not the best, but better than a kick in the teeth! Or a ban for that matter. 
quote:
Originally posted by Macbeast
.....
With respect, I should keep quiet about your Gran taking points. That seems to be treated as a VERY serious offence, much worse than speeding.
There was a bit in the paper today about someone trying on the photo - It wasnt me thing.
They proved it was him, and he got 4 months and a fine for trying to pervert the course of justice. Which IS a serious offence, and I believe leaves
you with a criminal record, rather than just a fine and some points on your licence.
Eeek, hold on........
if i drive the company combi van thingy - its a corsa with a van bit bolted on the back - not just the windows filled in. Are you saying that i
shouldn't go over 60mph in that??????
oh heck.
I also thought transits where classes as PLG so had the same rules as cars.
I think they can class the big transits as small trucks, but not sure how it works, ie length, weight, height etc. I know my transit connect isn't a truck and classed as PLG. Just depend show far the Light Goods bit goes.
My boss has Road Angel fitted to his car, and since having it has achieved nine points on his licence for speeding and currently has a further NIP. So
that's obviously working.
There was a recent article in our local newspaper which read something like this:
691 Northamptonshire Police officers were caught by the county's speed cameras exceeding the speed limit during the last 12 months.
Of these 674 were not prosecuted because they had their lights flashing at the time or could provide evidence that they were responding to an
emergency call.
The remaining 17 were prosecuted but subsequently had their convictions overturned because they gave a good reason for speeding.
So, there you have it, you just need to find out what those good reasons were and you're home and dry.
David
[Edited on 10/11/06 by DavidM]
i think they start with "i'm a"and end with "police officer, m'lord"