Hi all
I do not have alloy tig welder to shorten my alloy sump ( 1.8 Silver top ). Am l correct that the black top have steel sump? Does anyone know If the bottom of the block fixing are the same than l can modify the steel as l can weld steel.

As far as I can remember yes a steel sump fits

If you are cutting the bottom off it needs to be cut slanted to the top part that bolts to the block .
This way the bottom off it the sump is straight with the chassis and the rocker cover
From what I can remember you may need a steep pick up pipe to alter
Graham

I am sure someone will be along that know more then me

Thanks Graham for your reply all l did to know was if the fixing holes on the bottom of the block were matching.
Thanks again for other information.
Regards Alex

[Edited on 29/7/26 by axle]

The black top sump is in two parts. The steel sump is only a small portion of the sump. There is also a large aluminium windage assembly between the block and the steel sump.
I believe the alloy sump on the silver top is one piece so you're going to need more than the steel part.

Im very sorry the steel sump I altered was to fit a 2l black top but I can’t remember if the sump came of a black top or a silver top engine maybe off a different model Ford car
G

Here's what the sump looks like and me altering the windage assembly to have more fixing points for the Type 9 bell housing








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Well thanks all for your replies it's the Zetec silver top sump l was trying to modify steel from black top. It looks like l have to make one from scratch has anyone done this before it will be a massive help?