zilspeed
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 08:56 AM |
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Bangernomics
Would any practitioners of bangernomics mind giving me their current experiences of this choice of motoring.
I've done it in the past and am arguably still doing it, but I'm now thinking of chopping the car I have and going the strictly banger
route.
What are you running, what did it cost, is it a nightmare, that kind of thing.
Cheers
JF
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daviep
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 09:13 AM |
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Rule no.1: NOTHING FRENCH OR ITALIAN
Diesel fiesta is a pretty good banger, bodies fall to bits and the eat front wishbones but apart from that they are bullet proof. My last one did
180,000 before the body finally fell to bits, the engine was transplanted and did another 20,000 before I wrapped the car round a tree!
If you want to be a bit more refined 1.25 zetec fiesta. They go ok for a small engine, handle well and are cheap road tax.
Older diesel VW's are also a good bet.
If you have absolutely no pride skoda felicia's cannot be given away and are pretty bullet proof.
EXAMPLE
I've always run bangers, if you use them daily and avoid any kind of maintenance they seem to be reliable
Cheers
Davie
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mr henderson
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 09:15 AM |
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Certainly depends on one's particular circumstances. I don't need to drive every day (workshop is withing walking distance), but when I do
I need to shift bulky stuff, and/or tow a trailer.
With this in mind I bought a 960 Volvo estate, M reg, 100,000 miles, 3 litre straight 6, RWD longitudinal engine with 9 months MOT for £575.
It only gets 5 miles to the litre when it's working, which is usually towing a trailer, but the amount I save on depreciation can pay for a f**k
of a lot of fuel.
Personally I think unless a person has just got so much money that it doesn't matter, then buying a new or nearly new car is insane (unless they
are doing a HUGE mileage, and a slight gain in fuel efficiency will pay for the depreciation)
John
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zilspeed
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 09:18 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daviep
Rule no.1: NOTHING FRENCH OR ITALIAN
Diesel fiesta is a pretty good banger, bodies fall to bits and the eat front wishbones but apart from that they are bullet proof. My last one did
180,000 before the body finally fell to bits, the engine was transplanted and did another 20,000 before I wrapped the car round a tree!
If you want to be a bit more refined 1.25 zetec fiesta. They go ok for a small engine, handle well and are cheap road tax.
Older diesel VW's are also a good bet.
If you have absolutely no pride skoda felicia's cannot be given away and are pretty bullet proof.
EXAMPLE
I've always run bangers, if you use them daily and avoid any kind of maintenance they seem to be reliable
Cheers
Davie
Re the Skoda, I have one I can call on at any time and basically have it.
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spaximus
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 09:24 AM |
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It all depends on your definition of banger. To some any car older than a couple of years is a banger. The questions are these tho, what do you need
the car for and how bothered are you on the amount of work you need to do.
In the past I have had cars that were say 5 years old then run them into the ground and then buy a new one. The older they get the more running
maintenace yoou have to do, which is fine if you can do it and have access to cheap parts.
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eznfrank
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 09:34 AM |
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When I slipped the belt on my Alfa 147 I needed something to run around in for a few weeks while I fixed her up. I went to the auction and picked up
a Cinquecento SX on an R with 50K on the clock and 11 months MOT for about £300. Needed a few little bits but nowt too drastic. Throttle position
sensor, rear hub (threads stripped by dumb ass garage), new tyre. It probably owes me about £350, but I now use it for the daily commute 4 days a
week into Leeds instead of the Alfa and it saves about £100 a month on juice so since August it's paid for itself.
Done a few long journeys, Leeds to Northamton and back in it and never skipped a beat.
Only issue is it's sooooo slow but keeps my licence safe I guess.
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balidey
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 09:45 AM |
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I run a fiat cinquecento sporting. Small, light, economical, handle well. Cost me £125 to buy. Looks good, and easy to work on and keep running. And
rob bits off a punto from any scrap yard for repairs or upgrades.
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idl1975
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 09:58 AM |
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I concur with the 90s Fiesta suggestion for cheap, basic motoring, although I'd go with a petrol one. Cheap parts and aside from the bodies,
robust. If you can't be bothered with even pattern parts prices, any scrapyard will have one.
Not much good if you want something to tow a kit car though.
If you want something more entertaining, basic E30s can be good c. £500, but you have to find one that hasn't been chavved and has had at least
the major bits of requisite maintenance (e.g water pump, thermo and belts on the sixes).
Late 80s/early 90s Saab 900 liftbacks are the most amazingly comfy bangers and you can even tow with them, but they're agricultural and they do
break.
quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Would any practitioners of bangernomics mind giving me their current experiences of this choice of motoring.
I've done it in the past and am arguably still doing it, but I'm now thinking of chopping the car I have and going the strictly banger
route.
What are you running, what did it cost, is it a nightmare, that kind of thing.
Cheers
JF
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 10:02 AM |
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The £200 1.8 Sierra that I bought off of Bigwassa just over 2 years ago has just astounded me. I put the old tyres on it of my Granada donor when I
bought the Sierra, I spent £18 on two exhaust sections, £50 on service items (including cambelt & water pump), last MOT it cost me 2 cable ties
(to hold light reflectors onto broken ball studs), and this year it cost me nothing. Although if I keep it past this year I will have to weld a sill
up and replace a suspected leaking wheel cylinder (slight rear brake imbalance in rollers).
Oh and I splashed out on £39 in Lydl's for a decent music box for the wife to listen to while driving.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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JoelP
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 10:07 AM |
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bangernomics I know a few people who have been caught out bad, you have to make a shrewd purchase, and not start putting money into it. Obviously a
low mileage grandpa car is the ideal one. Failing that, i did well for many years in 4 year old repmobiles from auctions, still new enough to be
reliable but not much depreciation left to happen.
As mr henderson points out, you can take fuel costs into account. My new van ('04)worked out 7p a mile cheaper than the old one (2000), which at
times would save me £35-£50 a week.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 10:15 AM |
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I only run bangers 
I look for good bodywork with dead engines 
I used to say never french but Peugeot's really take some beating.
My current car is 98 pug 406
I bought it with a snaped cam-belt. The owner had fitted 4 new tyres a month before hand and the belt had snaped within a mile of the petrol station
having filled it to the brim plus 3 months T&T
Deal done £100
I bought another engine £75 plus a 200 mile round trip, in the back of the wifes escort.
Full service £100
I took the engine out one weekend and fitted the fresh one the next. Even the air con is fully working. It passed its mot a couple of months latter
with just one advisory.
Its the best car ive owned. The newest car ive ever had was two years old and I used to hate parking it anyware.
That said I have picked up some lemons. I just sell them back on and explain the faults.
I am always looking for the next car so I have one in hand.
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Peteff
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 10:22 AM |
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We bought a Kia Sportage last year when I was stuck for a car for running about and I had to go in hospital. It's only cost me an exhaust and
oil change and is a good truck for carting stuff about plus it had a towbar for the trailer and trailer tent. The engine is 2ltr 16v Mazda based and
is like a turbine it's so smooth and we like it.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 10:24 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jollygreengiant
The £200 1.8 Sierra that I bought off of Bigwassa just over 2 years ago has just astounded me.
And it makes me smile when I see it at the shows. I only ever sold it as a drive home donor
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 11:24 AM |
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volvo 940 turbo 1995 onwards , pick them up for around £4-500 .
pick a manual , pick a rare colour , and itll never depreciate .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 11:34 AM |
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citreon zx 1.9 deisel.
unstopable.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 11:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
citreon zx 1.9 deisel.
unstopable.
Are the brakes that bad?
(I'll get my coat...  )
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dinosaurjuice
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 11:57 AM |
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~1990 mercedes 250d
like:
fleabay linkydinky
a bit more to buy but fairly cheap to run...
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mr henderson
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 12:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
volvo 940 turbo 1995 onwards , pick them up for around £4-500 .
pick a manual , pick a rare colour , and itll never depreciate .
Mine's an automatic, wouldn't have bought it if it was a manual. Over the years I have found autos to be more reliable than manuals,
althugh I buy them for the more pleasant driving experience
John
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 12:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
volvo 940 turbo 1995 onwards , pick them up for around £4-500 .
pick a manual , pick a rare colour , and itll never depreciate .
Mine's an automatic, wouldn't have bought it if it was a manual. Over the years I have found autos to be more reliable than manuals,
althugh I buy them for the more pleasant driving experience
John
yours is a whiteblock car , if it was manual , id have snapped it up .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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clairetoo
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 01:29 PM |
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Bangernomics is what I have been practicing since I learnt to drive
My approach is this - I try not to spend more than £200 a year on purchase , then as little as I can get away with on maintenance
My current tin-top cost £600 three years ago , and to be honest is about on its last legs - if it last this year I'll be dead chuffed ! (it is
now 15 years old , with 127000 miles on whats left of it !)
The best car I owned was an Alfa 164 - 3 litre , all leather , for just £360 - sold that when the clutch and a head gasket went for £114 (back on
ebay) two years later , and all it had in that time was brake pads
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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zilspeed
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 01:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by clairetoo
Bangernomics is what I have been practicing since I learnt to drive
My approach is this - I try not to spend more than £200 a year on purchase , then as little as I can get away with on maintenance
My current tin-top cost £600 three years ago , and to be honest is about on its last legs - if it last this year I'll be dead chuffed ! (it is
now 15 years old , with 127000 miles on whats left of it !)
The best car I owned was an Alfa 164 - 3 litre , all leather , for just £360 - sold that when the clutch and a head gasket went for £114 (back on
ebay) two years later , and all it had in that time was brake pads
Claire - still waiting on news on the other thing and will advise you asap.
Cheers
JF
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britishtrident
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 02:07 PM |
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Early Mondeo are cheap as chips and very reliable but they tend to rattle a bit from the suspension, also look out for the one pensioner owner low
mileage old shape Rover 214 and 216 --- sometimes they can be found for 100 quid., Rover 600s are as reliable as hell but fuel and tyre consumption
is reltively high. Good immaculate Rover 800s can also be found sub 300 quid but they tend to have electrical niggles.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 02:18 PM |
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Take a look at this
ebay item 230319213367
The price is too high it won't sell I would think 350 pounds would get it.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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panichat
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 02:28 PM |
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Be radical...
I've got 2 bangers -
1. sensible Mk3 Golf £600 that has been nothing but misery
2. silly Fiat X1/9 £450 that has been brilliant
It's probably one of those situations where you rely on luck rather than judgement - but if you are only spending a small amount of money why
not try and have some fun getting someting you haven't tried before (and probably won't again).
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 18/1/09 at 07:51 PM |
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My Citroen XM 2.1TD cost me £350 .I've had it for 11 years although it did cost me £40 the year before last to get it through an MOT . Had to
fit a brand new second hand battery a few months ago as well
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