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Author: Subject: Sierras are hard to come by, alternatives?
Ninehigh

posted on 9/2/09 at 09:50 PM Reply With Quote
Sierras are hard to come by, alternatives?

Not seen a Sierra for sale round here since shortly after coming to this site, does anyone know if they're common in dismantler's places or if there's a common alternative i.e. could I extend a BMW/MX5/Merc one?






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RichardK

posted on 9/2/09 at 09:57 PM Reply With Quote
Have you tried searching for p100 's? sometimes they slip by the casual browser.

Cheers

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LBMEFM

posted on 9/2/09 at 10:07 PM Reply With Quote
Sierra's are unsurprisingly, due to their age, getting in short supply. I am surprised that manufactures continue to base their kits on them and don't move on to the latter model cars for doners such as the Mondeo etc.
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catman

posted on 9/2/09 at 10:12 PM Reply With Quote
i think they are front wheel drive so no good!

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Volvorsport

posted on 9/2/09 at 10:13 PM Reply With Quote
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jacko

posted on 9/2/09 at 10:17 PM Reply With Quote
BMW
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Humbug

posted on 9/2/09 at 10:18 PM Reply With Quote
Jaguar
TVR
Aston Martin

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minitici

posted on 9/2/09 at 10:21 PM Reply With Quote
MX5
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blakep82

posted on 9/2/09 at 10:46 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Humbug
Jaguar
TVR
Aston Martin

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zilspeed

posted on 9/2/09 at 11:18 PM Reply With Quote
Mid engined car with front wheel drive donor.
The writing's only been on the wall since 1993 (the year the Mondeo replaced the Sierra).

Build a Sylva Riot and be done with it.






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mcerd1

posted on 10/2/09 at 08:20 AM Reply With Quote
granada's and scorpio's can be a bit easier to find, but it wound be nice if more kits moved on to newer donors
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Ninehigh

posted on 10/2/09 at 08:29 AM Reply With Quote
So pretty much any rear axle will fit?

It is a problem basing cars on increasingly rare donors, but surely there's another out there that is just about the same width...






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mcerd1

posted on 10/2/09 at 08:36 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
So pretty much any rear axle will fit?

It is a problem basing cars on increasingly rare donors, but surely there's another out there that is just about the same width...

It all comes down to which design you follow / kit you buy and how much you want to alter it to suit different running gear

a sierra with 7"diff, should be the easiest - other donors might need you to be a bit more creative

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Ninehigh

posted on 10/2/09 at 08:46 AM Reply With Quote
Ok when I said `fit`I meant being the same width... How wide is the Sierra diff anyway?






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mr henderson

posted on 10/2/09 at 09:21 AM Reply With Quote
Are you seriously trying to find a different donor because you can't find a Sierra, or do you just fancy building something different.

I can guarantee you it will be a lot easier to find a Sierra and base your build on that than it will be to base your build on a different donor, unless you use a kit such as Westfield or MNR do based on the MX5.

If you are planning to build your own chassis then using any donor other than a Sierra is going to take a long time and be more expensive.

Better to drive 500 miles to find a Sierra than start a scratch build based on a different car.

John






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coozer

posted on 10/2/09 at 09:23 AM Reply With Quote
There not that rare, thousands still on the road and a quick look at ebay theres 45 just searching for Sierra. Some are mega money Cosworths but there are some very cheap ones including a couple of 4x4's.





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Ninehigh

posted on 10/2/09 at 09:37 AM Reply With Quote
Actually I was more asking if I could just get the diff really?






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mr henderson

posted on 10/2/09 at 09:40 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
Actually I was more asking if I could just get the diff really?


I expect so. They come up on here sometimes.






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mcerd1

posted on 10/2/09 at 10:41 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
Actually I was more asking if I could just get the diff really?


there are always some on ebay linky
but the prices can be silly sometimes


btw there are 2 sizes of sierra diff 7" and 7.5" (the 7.5" is quite a bit bigger / wider / heavier)

the 7" is the one in most sierra's and is the one most kits are built for (although some kits like the dax's can have either without any mods)

the 7.5" is the most common in the granada's and scorpios, but it depends on age, model, engine and what ford had in the parts bin

[Edited on 10/2/09 by mcerd1]

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Ninehigh

posted on 10/2/09 at 10:56 AM Reply With Quote
Ah of course the diff doesn't include axles...






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mcerd1

posted on 10/2/09 at 11:25 AM Reply With Quote
so you'll need hubs and driveshafts too then (also on ebay or sometimes on here)
there are 3 types (to suit different diff versions) push-in, bolt-on and cossie 2wd (i.e. bigger bolt-on)



it is possible to get all the bits you need seperatly, but it will probably cost more

[Edited on 10/2/09 by mcerd1]

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mcerd1

posted on 10/2/09 at 11:27 AM Reply With Quote
also some of the BEC lot were using freelander rear axles (lighter than sierra)

[Edited on 10/2/09 by mcerd1]

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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 10/2/09 at 12:32 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RichardK
Have you tried searching for p100 's? sometimes they slip by the casual browser.

Cheers

Rich


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Ninehigh

posted on 10/2/09 at 01:28 PM Reply With Quote
I'd rather it be more expensive than have it sat in the garage rotting because I can't get some rusted piece off






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mr henderson

posted on 10/2/09 at 01:45 PM Reply With Quote
I don't think you are making yourself very clear.

Is it the entirerear end you want (with subframe), or a diff, or just the diff and driveshalfts? Or the hubs as well? What about the rear suspension (remember most rwd cars have struts)

If you can say a bit more about what you have in mind the answers might be more helpful

John






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