Phil_1471
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| posted on 6/2/16 at 09:08 AM |
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My R1ot
Hi All,
New to the forum and just thought I would say hello and share some pictures of my R1ot winter rebuild.
There's a few in the link below if you fancy a browse (not that exciting) would be interested in speaking to other R1ot owners to talk about car
setups etc.
Any comments / opinions welcome
Cheers
Phil
http://s399.photobucket.com/user/phil_bucket_photo/library/R1ot%20rebuild
[Edited on 6/2/16 by Phil_1471]
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jeffw
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| posted on 6/2/16 at 09:21 AM |
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Nice looking car.
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james h
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| posted on 6/2/16 at 09:37 AM |
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Very nice!
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CosKev3
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| posted on 6/2/16 at 10:06 AM |
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Looks good 
What power did it make on the RR?
When you say 'winter rebuild' Presuming it's all road legal and you've rebuilt it/modded it to your liking?
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adithorp
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| posted on 6/2/16 at 12:03 PM |
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Nice looking motor. What year R1 is it?
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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motorcycle_mayhem
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| posted on 6/2/16 at 12:44 PM |
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My guess is that it's an older 4XV, looking at the airbox, the carbs, the different crankcase colours and the gearchange input.
Power on a RR will be anything from 110-200 BHP, depending on the usual variables, including what anyone may want to say, or hear.
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CosKev3
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| posted on 6/2/16 at 12:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by motorcycle_mayhem
Power on a RR will be anything from 110-200 BHP, depending on the usual variables, including what anyone may want to say, or hear.
We all know how RR'S can be worked,so pointless pointing that out tbh.
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Phil_1471
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| posted on 6/2/16 at 03:07 PM |
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Thanks for the kind comments.
I'm just overhauling everything minus the engine as that's okay. I'm lucky to have a mate with a rolling road, it's an old
road but we have used it for years and the power reading has always been bang on and most importantly consistent.
The engine is standard 1998 R1 4xv, made 150ish bhp, so with loss through transmission about 135-140bhp. So bang on what it should be.
Just need some ideas on setups, tyre pressures etc, will be hiring blyton or fulbek for a day to have a play around with setup and tyres.
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Phil_1471
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| posted on 15/2/16 at 08:42 PM |
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Today's fun....
After a number of 'unsuccessful' sessions in the garage which resulted in me throwing tools around...
I have finally made a little progress, airfilter on and exhaust packed
Folder updated with a few quick pics....thoughts on postcards
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nickm
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| posted on 17/2/16 at 07:53 PM |
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Hi
Nice looking car, looks like its been finished off well, reminds me why it took so long to decide, Riot or J15.
Nick M
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threadbare wallet
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| posted on 18/2/16 at 06:06 AM |
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Always fancied one of these nearset thing to a kart on the road! Looks a great build.
Very few things are "really" needed.
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nick205
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| posted on 18/2/16 at 08:44 AM |
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Looks very smart - always like the R1OT to look at.
As above it must be very go-kart like to drive 
One thing I can recommend is having the car setup for suspension geometry and the engine setup for fueling etc. It makes a world of difference when
all done correctly. Whereabouts are you based? People on here may be able to recommend a suitable place to help.
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Phil_1471
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| posted on 18/2/16 at 01:27 PM |
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again, thanks for positive comments
Im in Nottingham, and definitely interested in knowing how other have set there up as regards chassis and tyre pressures etc. I have the gear to set
it up myself, but not really looked at setups etc yet. Fuelling was bang on with K&N and standard airbox, now its been changed I will set it up
again on the rolling road (lucky to have this option).
Any input welcome!
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nick205
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| posted on 18/2/16 at 01:53 PM |
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Not specific to the R1OT, but I used to run around 17psi in 195/50R15s on my MK Indy, much higher and it slipped around a bit at the back end.
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Phil_1471
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| posted on 18/2/16 at 04:25 PM |
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Currently running about 12psi all round
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nick205
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| posted on 19/2/16 at 09:55 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Phil_1471
Currently running about 12psi all round
Fair enough, IIRC my Indy with Pinto and a full tank of fuel weighed at 600kg, I'd imagine your car is lighter?
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Phil_1471
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| posted on 19/2/16 at 10:09 AM |
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I think it's 480kg but will have it on the corner scales soon and check :-)
Any idea what temp the fan is meant to cut in at on a standard R1? Just started her for the first time since rebuild ran up to 115c no fan, shorted
out the contacts and know it's not the fan as that spun up.
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Phil_1471
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| posted on 19/2/16 at 10:25 AM |
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And..... If you fancy a laugh at me and my commentary;
http://s399.photobucket.com/user/phil_bucket_photo/media/R1ot%20rebuild/C5CF4836-128E-48D0-A058-CAB82D32B97C.mp4.html
http://s399.photobucket.com/user/phil_bucket_photo/media/R1ot%20rebuild/1419CF45-63E7-41A9-8670-57B95FF55FBD.mp4.html
http://s399.photobucket.com/user/phil_bucket_photo/media/R1ot%20rebuild/1419CF45-63E7-41A9-8670-57B95FF55FBD.mp4.html
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nick205
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| posted on 19/2/16 at 12:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Phil_1471
I think it's 480kg but will have it on the corner scales soon and check :-)
Any idea what temp the fan is meant to cut in at on a standard R1? Just started her for the first time since rebuild ran up to 115c no fan, shorted
out the contacts and know it's not the fan as that spun up.
No experience with bike engines, but 115 degrees seems high to me. My VAG cars seem to sit at 90 degrees (although they sit there rock solid on the
gauge I believe there must be some variation in actual temperature between moving and stationary).
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CosKev3
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| posted on 19/2/16 at 12:32 PM |
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Bike engines do run hot if you use the bike sensor etc.
I've used a electronic controller with my R1 engine and have it set to run at nearer car engine temps,kicking in at 98 degrees.
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CosKev3
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| posted on 19/2/16 at 12:37 PM |
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Ref fueling mine running a big open filter and car based exhaust manifold with a worked head needed 145 main jets to get the fueling correct,produced
163bhp though
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Phil_1471
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| posted on 19/2/16 at 12:56 PM |
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Using a cut back standard manifold, so, slightly shorter and standard jets (as far as I know),, before changing to the foam filter was slightly
rich... Will stick it on the rollers with Lambda on and find out soon. What electronic controller have you used??
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CosKev3
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| posted on 19/2/16 at 06:01 PM |
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TOP GAUGE Universal Itouch Fan Super Controller Water Oil Temp Voltage Gauge
Works well,mounted sensor into outlet of R1 thermostat housing.
Displays temp and flashes when fan is running
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Riot Squad
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| posted on 19/2/16 at 06:52 PM |
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Hi Phil, I really like your Riot build, very tidy, they always look so good in black as well I think!
We run on our Demo car engine Riot, 500 kg 1.6 Ecoboost open diff. (Also has a wider Rear Track than the original Riot)
19 psi all round.
1mm of toe-in front and rear.
1 degree negative camber front.
1.5 degrees negative on the rear.
This is on 205/50x15 Toyo Proxes road tyres
We found this set up following a track session (Castle Combe Circuit) it was very predictable and compliant it took the kerbs easily without any
upsetting the balance and still kept that excellent turn in..
We plan to try softer tyres this year to see how far we can improve cornering grip.
Hope that gives you a good start point
Miles
www.Riotcars.co.uk
Tel. 01643 709330
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Phil_1471
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| posted on 20/2/16 at 10:17 AM |
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Cheers Mikes, will give them a try, 19psi sounds high though, what are your spring rates and dampers?
Kev- I'm Going to put a car thermo switch in, I think.
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