givemethebighammer
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 01:21 PM |
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SVA and MOT
This seems to be a grey area. After passing the SVA do you need an MOT ? Called DVLA and they were not sure. The DVLA in Notts did not ask for the MOT
cert when they issued my road tax (but I did give them the MAC cert).
As the SVA covers all of the MOT criteria, some (i.e. brakes) with stricter pass limits, I can't see how an MOT would be required but, you never
know.......
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barrie sharp
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 01:37 PM |
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You do not need a mot for three years after sva as the date of your sva is the date it was registered.
but you can still take it for an mot for a check up but you dont need it
the cars looking good" a blind man would be pleased to see it"
''stop press'' the blind mans seen it said "it felt ok"
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bob
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 01:50 PM |
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As barrie said 3 years before its 1st MOT,my car tax reminder quoted that i needed a valid MOT cert but i took the V5 the the post office which stated
the car was 1st registered may 2004 and they accepted that
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alister667
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 01:58 PM |
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For me to register my Q plate Indy I was told I needed an MOT certificate. Mind you, I'd be confident they don't know what they're
on about.
Definitely a grey area.
Also AFAIK I'll have to MOT my car every year from the start. Again I suspect this is related to it being a Q plate.
[Edited on 16/2/05 by alister667]
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carlgeldard
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 02:15 PM |
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MOT after SVA
I was told by the inspector at Beverley at the avoneers SVA test, that you will need an MOT after 6 months.
Carl
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Snuggs
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 02:16 PM |
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DVLA dont know what their talking about.
One person says one thing and the next something completly different.
The person I spoke to at Stockton DVLA (who was the person that inspected all kit cars etc for the area) said I did not need an MOT to tax the car at
first registration but advised me to get one anyway !!!!
After a lot of investigation I think that the rules are as follows.
If the vehicle is registered as NEW then it doesn't need an MOT for 3 years.
If the vehicle is on an age related or Q plate then it needs an MOT from 1st Jan following the year of registration.
Clive
ps: Sorry Barrie but 3 years only applies to NEW vehicles.
pps: Bob, you were lucky at the Post Office.
[Edited on 16/2/05 by Snuggs]
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chunkielad
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 02:26 PM |
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The MOT rule is fromdate of manufacture.
A Q plate car, like a new built car with all new parts and an age related car, are still all manufactrued the day you register them.
Hence NO car will need MOT within 3 years of you registering the car (number plate has nothing to do with it - just date of manufacture).
HOWEVER - DVLA are stupid and most post office bods don't know he full ins and outs of the rules so it's likely you'll get asked for
one when you go for the tax.
At £40 an MOT per year - it may be less hassle just to get one!!!
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Snuggs
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 02:53 PM |
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The date of manufacture is
1: The date of registration if the vehicle is NEW
2: The date of manufacture of the DONOR if an age related plate is issued.
A Q plate vehicle MUST have an MOT at first registration.
[Edited on 16/2/05 by Snuggs]
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Snuggs
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 03:15 PM |
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BTW
The horn is NOT covered by SVA.
I asked about this when I went though and was told that it was covered in the MOT.
When I asked about NEW kit vehicles the SVA inspector shrugged and mumbled something !!!!
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givemethebighammer
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 03:21 PM |
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even more grey now
I am more concerned with invalidating my insurance rather than needing it for official reasons.
I will MOT the car every year for two reasons
1. The local garage helped me prepare the car for the SVA (brakes, lights, emissions etc) and are very interested in it (must be more interesting than
repairing normal cars all day).
2. Best to have a mechanic check it over once a year to ensure it stays safe.
Like I said a called the DVLA and if they don't know or aren't sure, who else can you call ?
ps - also found this:
http://www.totalkitcar.com/tkc_article_125.php
[Edited on 16/2/05 by givemethebighammer]
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locoboy
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 03:51 PM |
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Hazard warning lights are not a requirement for MOT either but they are for SVA
ATB
Locoboy
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zetec
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 03:57 PM |
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I got in touch with the people at STATUS who say no MOT required for 3 years after the first registration regardless of the donor age (how could you
have different rules for Q plate cars!). They say it is a bit of a loop hole as the law says a car needs an MOT after 3 years from the date first
registered and this is fine in most cases as the car will be brand new, and does not take into account kit cars are not always so. It would be very
difficult to police a system based on the date the car was built as some sit in storage for months before being shipped, sold and registered.
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chunkielad
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 03:58 PM |
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According to my local VLO she said that when the car is registered it will have an age related plate (as long as it meets criteria) but the
manufacture date will be when I made it as it is a NEW car (read new identity) and will have a new chassis (VIN) number. The number plate restriction
is not an indication of the manufactured date.
Maybe this is another grey area but she was very clear about it and adamant this was the case.
DVLA are useless round here anyway so I wouldn't ask them!!!
I personally will be MOTing mine as it gives me the peace of mind that all is well in the world of Craig before I put my foot down ina car that will
do over 100MPH!!!
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barrie sharp
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 04:03 PM |
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quote''The date of manufacture is
1: The date of registration if the vehicle is NEW
2: The date of manufacture of the DONOR if an age related plate is issued.
A Q plate vehicle MUST have an MOT at first registration. end quote''
Firstly My car is an age related plate and when I registered it after SVA was not asked for MOT (even though i had one ).when it came up for tax at 6
months i did it on line and again was not asked for MOT.
secondly went to SVA centre that tested my car and asked about MOTs and he pointed out that even if your car is age related or Q plate it still has
date registered on your registration doc.as your date it was SVAed thus making it 3 years before needing an MOT .
I will still Mot mine every year because i want to be better safe than sorry!!
hope this helps
if not try phoning Bryon at Exeter SVA centre hes very helpful.
[Edited on 16/2/05 by barrie sharp]
the cars looking good" a blind man would be pleased to see it"
''stop press'' the blind mans seen it said "it felt ok"
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Snuggs
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 05:13 PM |
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How do you tax a car online ?
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bob
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 06:04 PM |
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Finally managed to get through to DVLA this afternoon,it far better to be told from the horses mouth as they say
Date of 1st registration regarding "kit cars" wether on a Q plate or not,this is on your V5 you receive after registering the car. From
this date its 3 years until you need an MOT for use on the highways,which i supose in english means no MOT for car tax purpose for 3 years.
I gave them my registration ( a Q plate ) for this purpose
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 06:20 PM |
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my tax renewal thingy says "mot required"so the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing comes to mind
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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bob
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 06:24 PM |
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yep mine said MOt cert required too but i thought i'd ask them at the place that knows and thats what they said,if it comes through again like
that i'll just take the V5 to the PO like last time.
Athough at the end of the day the price of an MOT is still the cheapest check you could buy in this twated country we live in,
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Fozzie
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 09:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snoopy
i always look at it like this after building your car mot it its a good pre sva check a lot cheeper and you get chance to set your lights and
emissions up with a certificate as a bonus and if you have got any problems the mot man will find them first
Exactly what I did !
I was also told by the DVLA/VOSA that I wouldnt need an MOT for the first 3 years, but I will put it through again when its due for taxing, because I
believe its a good 'health' check! (IMO).
fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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Danozeman
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 11:26 PM |
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I agree with chunkielad. 3 years is from the date registered and is when the MOT is due. It says that in that "kit cars and th law" Book
thing from Kitcar mag..
It also says something i found interesting. You can drive your car to SVA aslong as its insured!!!
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
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bob
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| posted on 17/2/05 at 12:12 AM |
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Yup that too,i was unsure but i went passed a fair few copers on the way to the SVA and re-test with no plates on at all.
My neighbour is in the job and didnt know the law on that one,he said he would have given me a tug.little wanker probably would have
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 17/2/05 at 08:34 AM |
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Bob,
Putting "give me a tug" and "wanker" next to each other in a sentence gives it a whole new meaning...!
David
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Fozzie
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| posted on 17/2/05 at 09:35 AM |
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Tee-hee
Just what I was thinking David!
I do know for a fact, that yes, you can drive to the SVA as long as you have your chassis number and are insured (you get insured on your chassis
number). I also drove to the MOT (pre SVA).
I checked with my insurers, and the local traffic police, before doing so.
I would advise that when driving to the SVA or MOT centres that you take your insurance cert. with you, 'just in case'.
Not all police are traffic cops, so therefore not that clued up on the 'unusual' situations! 
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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Snuggs
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| posted on 17/2/05 at 02:49 PM |
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I did 350miles with no plates and never got pulled.
I never passed any speed cameras either which was a shame
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Spider pig, spider pig, does whatever a spider pig does.
I doubt therefore I may be.
Luposlipophobia : Fear of being chased by wolves around a freshly waxed kitchen floor, while wearing only socks on your feet.
My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely!
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http://www.jesusandmo.net/
http://www.snuggs.co.uk
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Fifer
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| posted on 17/2/05 at 03:04 PM |
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On the driving to SVA and MOT thing.
You can also drive to "a place where you are going to get something done to pass the SVA"
I used this one to set my digital speedo over a measured mile (several times)
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