stevebubs
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| posted on 22/3/05 at 10:09 PM |
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F#£$ing Rover!
Just had a nosy round a mate's Rover 400 ('97 1.6)- his auxiliary belt has snapped.
To put a new belt on, it looks like you need to:
Loosen the power steering pump belt and remove
Remove the lower engine mount
Put new belt on an tension up
Replace lower engine mount
Replace Power Steering pump belt and retension.
What a pallaver for a belt running the alternator and aircon!
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 22/3/05 at 10:16 PM |
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Above all it a Rover
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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britishtrident
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| posted on 22/3/05 at 10:18 PM |
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The splash gaurd might have to dropped also.
Dosen't take long, bigest fiddle is the belt adjuster on the alternator belt. And figuring out how the adjuster on thr PAS pump works.
These poly vee belts rarely break so it usually isn't an issue.
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 22/3/05 at 10:23 PM |
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Just be glad its only 1 belt, 2 pulley's and 1 tensioner.
Oh and don't over tighten the centre locking nut on the tensioner cos that breaks/sheers the stud part of the rest of it. (been there, done
it. oops.)
Enjoy. ( i am now going to bed with a lemsip and the flu.)
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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stevebubs
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| posted on 22/3/05 at 11:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
The splash gaurd might have to dropped also.
Dosen't take long, bigest fiddle is the belt adjuster on the alternator belt. And figuring out how the adjuster on thr PAS pump works.
These poly vee belts rarely break so it usually isn't an issue.
Go on, then...any hints welcome on this as it's a job he's asked if we can tackle tomorrow...Had a quick play with the PAS adjuster
mechanism. I'm guessing the square-headed bolt rotates and moves the pulley in it's sleeve. However, loosening this bolt doesn't
seem to have any effect...the pulley is still locked in position.
Oh...and whacking the adjuster has just cracked the plastic pulley so he needs a new one of those, too now. Grrr...
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stevebubs
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| posted on 23/3/05 at 08:03 PM |
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Job done now...what a pallaver for a simple job...
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Danozeman
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| posted on 23/3/05 at 10:17 PM |
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Thats nothing. My fiesta is a right arse.. You should see the belt on the new transit. its 9ft long!!
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 23/3/05 at 11:18 PM |
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try changing the front two plugs on a jag v12 - you have to take the aircon out and its about 2 hrs.
changing the starter motor needs the steering rack dropped and one exhaust removed.
atb
steve
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clbarclay
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| posted on 24/3/05 at 07:57 PM |
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Had to do the cambelt on a 200 with 1.6 honda.
Had to remove all you stated at begining, plus the ancillery pulley. needs special tool making to hold pully firm.
All the time not knowing if the engine was trashed inside. The cam belt had bust whalst doing 70 down motorway.
[Edited on 24/3/05 by clbarclay]
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flak monkey
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| posted on 24/3/05 at 08:49 PM |
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I *think* on the old pug 206 diesel you had to drop the engine out to change the cambelt....or so i was told. Could be boll%^s though
[Edited on 24/3/05 by flak monkey]
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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4bturbo
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| posted on 24/3/05 at 09:16 PM |
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ha!! thats nothing..
to change middle plug on the n/s side bank of my TT v6 I have to take the flipping turbo and manifold off !!!
So that gets changed regular (NOT)
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clbarclay
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| posted on 24/3/05 at 10:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
I *think* on the old pug 206 diesel you had to drop the engine out to change the cambelt....or so i was told. Could be boll%^s though
[Edited on 24/3/05 by flak monkey]
The 1.7/1.9 as fitted to pugs/citreons etc. then not quite. but it needs most of thefront wheel arc removing.
Family had a BX TDI that died becuse the cambelt was left on 80 miles too long, didn't have time to change it last time it was at home. The
result was that the cambelt bust, along with the camshjaft, valves, pistons the list goes on.
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Simon
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| posted on 24/3/05 at 10:49 PM |
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Not to anyone in particular, but.....
So you slag off Rover but then brag that
Fiesta
Jag
Honda
Peugeot
Citroen
Audi
are worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ATB
Simon
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flak monkey
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| posted on 24/3/05 at 10:53 PM |
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I think Rovers are great cars...but thats just my opinion. The engines are also very good, and no where near as bad (unreliable) as people make out.
(also IIRC 105ish BHP from a standard 1.4 K series and it weighs about the same as my little finger...)
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 24/3/05 at 11:23 PM |
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Sorry to dissapoint you all but the worst belt (cam belt) to do has got to be the Fiat 2.0 turbo coupe.
The ONLY way to do it is engine OUT ----- About 12hrs According to the book!
Enjoy.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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Simon
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| posted on 25/3/05 at 12:02 AM |
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12 hours at (guess for dealer) £70/hour
£840
Mind you, 12 hours and it'd have rusted away anyway, leaving just an engine to work on
ATB
Simon
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 25/3/05 at 12:51 AM |
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rovers wont last the life of a cam belt anyway simon
 
atb
steve
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nicklondon
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| posted on 25/3/05 at 07:29 AM |
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I watched a bloke do a passat cam belt, just to get to the front of the engine he removed the whole front of the car in one piece
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madforfishing
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| posted on 25/3/05 at 08:47 AM |
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Myself and my brother in law did the cam belt off my '98 Audi A4 and it is the same principle as the Passat (probably same car, no doubt). IMO
it was far easier than the norm faff you have having to work in such tight spaces. Granted it was on his drive, middle of the night, in Inverness, in
December, about zero degrees C.
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Simon
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| posted on 26/3/05 at 01:21 AM |
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Steve,
Me thinks you may be trying to wind me up
Git
Finished the Morgan or the bike yet?
ATB
Simon
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britishtrident
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| posted on 26/3/05 at 07:48 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
Not to anyone in particular, but.....
So you slag off Rover but then brag that
Fiesta
Jag
Honda
Peugeot
Citroen
Audi
are worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ATB
Simon
Add any Fiat model and those BMWs with alloy blocks that got knackered bores in 30,000 miles normal use,
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britishtrident
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| posted on 26/3/05 at 07:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
I think Rovers are great cars...but thats just my opinion. The engines are also very good, and no where near as bad (unreliable) as people make out.
(also IIRC 105ish BHP from a standard 1.4 K series and it weighs about the same as my little finger...)
Ditto had 3 Rovers in the last 10 years that I sold with over 180,00 miles on the clock , I know one went on to do 270 thousand before it died due to
being vandalised after the new owner ran out of fuel in the middle of a sink council estate. My curent Rovers are only at 89k, 91k and 38k.
[Edited on 26/3/05 by britishtrident]
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 26/3/05 at 09:24 AM |
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jgj,thats only on the 5 pot version,did a head rebuild on a 4 pot turdo,saved £1000 in parts by getting them from fiat in italy!and simon,they are all
galvanised so dont rust any more,unlike my transit
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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JoelP
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| posted on 26/3/05 at 10:33 PM |
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on the subject of rust, the boot on my k reg sierra has rusted through! its only 12 years old... i leant on the rubber bit (where it shuts) and it all
fell out
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 26/3/05 at 10:46 PM |
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More on rust, the very last of the escorts are terrible, I have replaced sills of several T and V reg ones, but only 5 doors (perhaps they never made
3 door ones that late?)
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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