carpmart
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| posted on 10/12/08 at 05:23 PM |
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Originally posted by MK9R
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Originally posted by carpmart
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Originally posted by MK9R
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Originally posted by carpmart
What about an Impreza? You can pick up an imported STi V1 or V2 for £3k which will have a red top engine so 280 bhp. They have water injection as
standard, close ratio box, larger intercooler etc etc
Put it on a bit of a diet and maybe up the boost a little and you have 300bhp+ per ton.
Actually, I think I might go down this route myself!
running cost on track for an impreza are horrific, 25 laps of the nurburg ring cost me over £1k in consumables!!! 2.5 sets of pads, 1 x warped disks
and 4 tyres!! And thats on a circuit fast and not hard on brakes!! Take it somewhere tight and twisty and it will kill a set of tires and disks in
less than a day!!
What makes it so hard on the brakes? Have you upgraded them? Also, why would this be so much different to run from a brake perspective than a 205,
clio etc? Is it just that these components cost that bit more as they are for an Impreza?
Tyres would be a consumable on any track day and there are hard and soft ways to use tyres. It seems logical to me that four tyres delivering
traction should lead to more balanced wear across the set as opposed to a two wheel drive car, do you agree?
One major thing - Weight! 205's are about 800kg, imprezas are about 1300kg (IIRC), the heavier the car the quicker everything wears out. Then
the cost of everything is so much higher, standard discs are about £140 each, reasonble pads are £100 a set (but can pay double) , tyres are £100 a
corner. The impreza is very hard on tires if driven "intrestingly"
Oh, and my impreza was doing 80miles on a full tank at the ring!!!! 
They are great cars on the road, but on track they are just too heavy in standard form.
To put this all in perspective, my ST is still on the same set of halfords brake pads after 9 track days (and they weren't new when i started),
and i've only bought 6 tyres (and the 4 i started with were shagged)
[Edited on 10/12/08 by MK9R]
[Edited on 10/12/08 by MK9R]
OK I see why you had a bad experience with 'consumables' on your impreza! A standard car will never make a good track car. The original
poster asked for ideas for a track car. I refer you to my original post where I suggested stripping the car so I never saw the 'track
car' the OP wants as being standard. I therefore respectfully suggest that your experience is not 100% relevant.
I understand 'stuff' wears out quicker with more mass to stop, accelerate etc. I am pretty sure I could strip an early STi down to a ton
in weight without going too mad. The OP wanted a track car not a road car so I think it could still be a possibility.
Why are you using tyres at 100 quid a corner on a track car? I would get some old shitters on there if I was going aggressive driving style or some
888's if I was going for some more 'finessfull' track fun. Either option is no where near 100 each corner. My fury is harder on
tyres than a track day E30 325i I had but then my E39 5 series can scrub out some rear Potenza's or Verdestad (can't spell) in a few
thousand miles on the road. My fireblade powered Drakart gets through part worn 7 inch slicks in two or three 10 min sessions. It all depends on the
tyre and how you use them.
H
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nick205
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| posted on 16/12/08 at 08:59 PM |
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Originally posted by Richard Quinn
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Originally posted by nick205
The 205's will always be a bit of a benchmark (and a particular favourite of mine, hence my username)
and I always thought it was
because the later Pinto block was a particular favourite of yours
Don't get me wrong I'm partial to a nice Pinto too, but not enough to build a username around it  
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