hughpinder
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| posted on 13/11/10 at 12:30 PM |
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BEC vs CEC - Id go CEC, unless I was actually racing (rather than doing odd track days.
BEC - say 95kg with reverse. 150-180bhp
CEC - duratec with alternator/starter/instruments/adapter and gearbox/clutch 160kg, 140bhp std, 200bhp without spending a lot, see flak monkeys post
for supercharging if you want more.
You save 65 kg with a BEC. However, you must spend to ensure everything is absolutely as light as possible. On a CEC you can build with
'cheap'/normal' weight components and upgrade to lighter components as your wallet refills, as the basic clutch/gearbox etc will be
more than ok. Consider all up weight -CEC say 525kg + driver approx 610kg, 680 with the missus in, BEC would probably be 440+driver=545+passenger=615,
so really saving about 610/545 = 15% of the 'as driven' weight.
For a BEC, when people say 'if you pop and engine you can just bang another in' - yes its probably light enough to handle on your own, but
don't underestimate the work/cost as its unlikely everyting will just fit, unless you get exactly the same model of engine/year etc -
exhaust,engine mounts, loom .... all may need altering. And it'll always go wrong at the most embarrasing/inconvenient time and place.
Just my thoughts
Regards
Hugh
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jase380
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| posted on 13/11/10 at 12:42 PM |
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Just to add my thoughts..... bike engine
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brookie
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| posted on 13/11/10 at 03:21 PM |
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i was like u m8 so went out in a car and bike engine one and now got an 919honda blade so for me it was the bec and to me a good starting point for
the bec
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 13/11/10 at 05:02 PM |
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I have a BEC, and being brutally honest about 40% of the time it is a pain in the arse, about 40% of time it is great fun and about 20% of the time it
is the best choice I have ever made.
IF you are really interested, go out for a drive in both - but make sure the test drives are comparible for what you will be using the car for and
this is important because BEC's can be pretty annoying on straight A roads and motorways (noisey, high revs) so if your ito long tours with the
wife then a CEC might be a better (more boring option), if your into going banzai everywhere, then a BEC is perfect.
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jase380
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| posted on 13/11/10 at 05:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
so if your ito long tours with the wife then a CEC might be a better (more boring option)
As in my case the wife hated the car when it had the car engine , now wont even get in it since i put the bike engine in, on the odd occasion she has
been in it you cant here her moaning over the engine noise, bec is a win win situation as far as i can see 
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 13/11/10 at 08:04 PM |
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The only real benefits from BEC that I can see are the slightly child-like nuttiness that comes frm a 6spd sequential 12+K rev limit and shaving
50-75kg off to aid cornering. And adding a lot of costs. You can more easily and cheaply get a better power-weight ratio from some very easily
available, cheap car engines and while the extra 75kg might be noticable I think the ease, lack of problems and lower component stress is going to aid
the lack of human stress.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 13/11/10 at 09:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
blah, blah.... You can more easily and cheaply get a better power-weight ratio from some very easily available, cheap car engines....... blah.
Such as?......................
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Benzine
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| posted on 13/11/10 at 09:42 PM |
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BEC!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111oneoneoneoneoneoneoneonetwothreefourV VI VII VIII IX X!!!!
The mental gymnastics a landlord will employ to justify immoral actions is clinically fascinating. Just because something is legal doesn't make
it moral.
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flak monkey
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| posted on 13/11/10 at 09:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
blah, blah.... You can more easily and cheaply get a better power-weight ratio from some very easily available, cheap car engines....... blah.
Such as?......................
Nissan 200 SX engine (C18DET or SR20DET) and gearbox - already configured for RWD. Available tuned, secondhand for peanuts - almost literally.
There are others too.
[Edited on 14/11/10 by flak monkey]
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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