twinturbo
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| posted on 27/7/04 at 10:53 AM |
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Cheers...
Have you got any photos of the engine bay?
Ta
TT
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ewanspence
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| posted on 3/8/04 at 10:39 AM |
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I have a 4x4 rolling chassis
I have build the chassic and running gear (but not done anything on the car for about 18months. Planning to get back into it in the next few weeks.
I have the rear as stabdard IRS, the front hat a sierra streeing rack (to save chopping the front driveshafts, the front prop runs up the drivers
footwell and takes quite a bit of space (I have a standard width chassis), the front prop was also extended by about 10in and a bearing with splined
joint. The front diff is ahead of the engine (10in forward of the original location). my website is still active although not updated for some time
but it does give some idea of some of the work.
The engine is a 2.8 lump.
Ewan.
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http://www.geocities.com/ewanspence/
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twinturbo
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| posted on 3/8/04 at 10:50 AM |
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That's the one I found first of all, so I knew it was generaly possible..
All the Big pics don't load anymore...  so I can't quite see what you have done..
Whereabouts are you in Central Jockland?
Ta
Rob
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ewanspence
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| posted on 3/8/04 at 01:07 PM |
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pics have been fixed
Rob,
Yahoo have upgraded the photo site I was using so I have changed the links to the photos on my site. You should be able to access the folders for the
photos.
Ewan
Ewan.
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twinturbo
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| posted on 3/8/04 at 01:27 PM |
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What did you do about the bottom bal joint?
TT
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Cheffy
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| posted on 3/8/04 at 04:29 PM |
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Hi Twinturbo, Cheffy here. As stated by Chris Russel (hi Chris) I'm going 4x4 using a 2.9V6 XR4x4 as donor. Click on the web site link below to
see where I'm at so far. The photo's on the web site are about a year old but I haven't done a lot more since due to work
commitments and the daughters impending wedding - no money left!!!
Hope it's of some help, good luck with the build.
Cheffy
Farts are like Rock'n'Roll. You love your own but you hate everybody else's. Lemmy, Motorhead.
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Cheffy
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| posted on 3/8/04 at 04:45 PM |
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PS. Re: Bottom ball joint. It's been about 2 years since I bought them and I have a crap memory, but IIRC, the bottom ball joints from a MK5
Escort are the correct taper and size for the bottom of the Sierra 4x4 upright.
Cheffy
Farts are like Rock'n'Roll. You love your own but you hate everybody else's. Lemmy, Motorhead.
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twinturbo
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| posted on 3/8/04 at 04:50 PM |
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Ther is no taper on the 4x4 is there? It uses a grove and through bolt for location..
MK5 escort, will have to check on that as Ity was one part that seemed to me to be a possible problem..
A FWD application woul seem a sensible donor though..
TT
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ewanspence
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| posted on 4/8/04 at 07:11 AM |
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I used the original link arm.
I used the original link arm and hacked it down to a 6 in long balljoint. Then dirlled 2 holes in it to bolt it to the lower arm (so I can replace it
if required.
Ewan
Ewan.
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twinturbo
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| posted on 4/8/04 at 07:32 AM |
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Yeah I just managed to make that out in the photo's... Wan't to avoid that as I want to keep spare Lower arms for my 24V 4x4
Sapphire...
The Mk5 Escort parts sound ideal if they are the right ones..
TT
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Cheffy
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| posted on 5/8/04 at 03:49 PM |
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Yep, straight with a groove in it. I've just taken a couple of photo's, I'll put them in my photo archive.
I'm going for inboard coilovers so the weight will be pressing down through the upright from the top as it would be in a McPherson set up. There
was a lengthy thread on here some time ago where people were expressing concerns that lower ball joints designed to work with a McPherson set up would
fail in a standard wishbone setup (with the coilover attached to the lower wishbone) where the forces are acting to force the lower ball joint
apart.
Cheers,
Cheffy
Farts are like Rock'n'Roll. You love your own but you hate everybody else's. Lemmy, Motorhead.
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Cheffy
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| posted on 5/8/04 at 04:01 PM |
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Right I've put the photo in my archive. Also, I've just been looking back at old posts. If you check my profile, then go to 'Search
for all posts by this user' there was a thread started on 14/10/2002 entitled something like '4x4 uprights and Fiesta Balljoints'.
check that out. The more I think about it and after re-reading the old posts, I'm 99.9% sure I used Escort Mk5 ball joints.
Hope this helps some,
Cheers,
Cheffy
Farts are like Rock'n'Roll. You love your own but you hate everybody else's. Lemmy, Motorhead.
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twinturbo
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| posted on 6/8/04 at 07:24 AM |
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I picked up a second hand chassis the other day, and placed the diff at the front..
There's not realy enugh space for it in terns of width with the standard crossover tube..
I think the 1st build will be 2wd and then build a widebody for the 4x4 after that's done..
TT
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Liam
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| posted on 9/8/04 at 06:36 PM |
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Hello...
You know you're posting has got a bit slack when people forget your existance!! (and i miss posts about 4x4s!).
I've reached rolling chassis with my 4x4 beast. It's down the hangar where I work and taken to bits so i can paint the chassis - but i have
this piccy i took just before its monumental first garage rollout!
Chassis is standard width at the front (although heavily redesigned). Suspension is inboard all round, bottom front bjs are Fiesta and top mushrooms
are a one-off from good old MK (for the price of standard ones - what a guy).
Liam
 
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Cheffy
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| posted on 18/8/04 at 02:03 PM |
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Hi Liam,
Interesting stuff, I'm looking to do something vaguely similar to you. Where did you get your coilovers and how much were they if you
don't mind me asking?
Cheers,
Cheffy
Farts are like Rock'n'Roll. You love your own but you hate everybody else's. Lemmy, Motorhead.
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Liam
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| posted on 18/8/04 at 05:02 PM |
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Hellooo...
Shocks are avo pro race spherical bearing versions. My design calls for quite short (11" open) shocks and the smaller 1.9" spring
versions. Never really pop up on ebay or owt with that spec so I splashed out on new ones (just 2 for now). Something like 70 squid each - sounds OK
but with VAT, springs, VAT on springs, delivery, VAT on delivery, VAT on VAT, extra VAT etc etc it added up to a mildly nasty 250 squid for the two!!
Oh well they say you get what you pay for with shocks and I was always gonna use brand new ones. Bounce up and down beautifully so they do. Will be
most expensive part of the car probably.
liam
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Cheffy
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| posted on 19/8/04 at 03:18 PM |
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Cheers Liam,
Haven't worked out exactly wot size I'm gonna need but it not gonna be a lot different to yours. Where did you get 'em?
Cheers,
Cheffy
Farts are like Rock'n'Roll. You love your own but you hate everybody else's. Lemmy, Motorhead.
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Liam
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| posted on 19/8/04 at 04:09 PM |
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Yo
Just phoned avo direct. They're based in northampton.
Liam
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phelpsa
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| posted on 19/8/04 at 04:28 PM |
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Just thinking, how can you attatch a 4wd system to a bike engine? I know Z-cars have done it with 2 engines but what about just having the one?
Adam
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JoelP
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| posted on 19/8/04 at 04:34 PM |
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you would need a seperate transfer box. With a bike engine i cant see the benefit in 4wd, the extra 2 diffs and gubbins must weight a fair bit, which
isnt what you want with bike engines. Id use a donor car with 4wd and a turbo, for lots of power etc. infact, myself, i would invest in some very
light 8 inch rear wheels and sod the 4wd, just get it all set up and balanced well.
8 inch wide that is, t'would be a bit daft on 8 inch rims!
[Edited on 19/8/04 by JoelP]
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twinturbo
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| posted on 19/8/04 at 04:42 PM |
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However well set up it is...
It won't come near a locost with 4x4..
8" rims may give better traction for acceleration but It's high speed cornering where the 4x4 realy comes in handy...
TT
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phelpsa
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| posted on 19/8/04 at 04:42 PM |
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I was just about to say, the discs are bigger than that
Adam
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twinturbo
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| posted on 19/8/04 at 04:44 PM |
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It should be possible to make up an adapter for a bike engine to the sierra type 9 transfer box.
But the bigest problem would be lack of torque. The bike engine would struggle..
TT
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