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Author: Subject: Zetec the difinitive guide
James

posted on 6/8/04 at 05:16 PM Reply With Quote
Mick,

Nothing to stop you using Megasquirt with a Zetec. It's cheap compared with other aftermarket systems.

There's a few posts about it here. Rob Lane is using it on his 4Age and CairB has done one for his Pinto in practice to soon fit it to a Duratec.

It's about £100 for the kit plus a bit more for the stimulator which apparently is worth having.

It's the route I'll use for my next engine (prob. 2 years away) which will be either Duratec or S2000.

HTH,
James

[Edited on 6/8/04 by James]

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James

posted on 6/8/04 at 05:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bob
I'm baffled


I always thought you looked like the inside of my sump!



Anyway, re-reading the posts I just realised you were talking about ignition- I read it at first as injection!

I was trying to say you could move the injection manifold round to the side (as opposed to on top of the engine) like Mark Allanson has done so nicely for his Pinto. He's written a .pdf document as a guide- it's on here in a couple of places.

Anyway, I'm gonna go home now as it's too late for work on a sunny Friday!

James

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phelpsa

posted on 6/8/04 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
There are two types of 1600 zetec, the E and the S. The S is the one in the Fiesta, focus and fusion, the E is the one in the escort and mondeo. The E is the same basic design as the 1.8 and 2.0, the S is completely different. Hope I got it all the right way round.

Adam






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bob

posted on 6/8/04 at 06:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by bob
I'm baffled


I always thought you looked like the inside of my sump!



Anyway, re-reading the posts I just realised you were talking about ignition- I read it at first as injection!

I was trying to say you could move the injection manifold round to the side (as opposed to on top of the engine) like Mark Allanson has done so nicely for his Pinto. He's written a .pdf document as a guide- it's on here in a couple of places.

Anyway, I'm gonna go home now as it's too late for work on a sunny Friday!

James


James

I'm still baffled,you didnt re-read the posts far enough.
Its zetec and ignition for it,the pinto will get binned.






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zilspeed

posted on 6/8/04 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by cdp
Hi zilspeed,

I notice you have used a 1600 zetec along with an inlet manifold from Burton power. Which one was it please?


thanks

Carl


Sorry mate, can't quite remember. I think there was only the one available back then. I figure that a manifold to suit a bigger engine would definitely work with the smaller one as if the ports were any different then they would most likely be smaller on the 1600.






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Mix

posted on 7/8/04 at 08:23 AM Reply With Quote
Dave

2.0l sump is 215mm at it's deepest, (mating surface to base at sump plug,externally).

It may also be worth mentioning that the Escort and Mondeo sumps have the oil reservoirs at opposite ends, (Mondeo one is at the gearbox end).

Cheers Mick

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dave1888

posted on 7/8/04 at 09:08 AM Reply With Quote
I fitted the bellhousing to the engine last night and the bellhousing sits 10mm lower than the sump. Surely i dont have to shorten the sump if the bellhousing is lower than the sump?
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Steve Hnz

posted on 7/8/04 at 02:24 PM Reply With Quote
Wyn, magic photos, beautifully clear & very neat job, any others you care to post will be drooled over!
Adam, Would I be right in thinking that a rear sump is a no no, oil starvation under braking & that sort of thing I imagine? so I`ll have to look out for an Escort zetec, definietly harder to find than a Mondeo one out here.

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lsdweb

posted on 8/8/04 at 09:16 AM Reply With Quote
Many thanks Steve

I'll post more photos when I get a chance. The most impressive bit (which I didn't think of!) is the clutch pullrod mechanism - it does away with the hassle of trying to get a cable to fit and bend in a tight space: it's really smooth as well. I'll post photos soon.

Wyn

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zilspeed

posted on 9/8/04 at 06:03 PM Reply With Quote
Another pic of a Zetec in a Se7en. This time running stock injection and in a Caterham SV









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dave1888

posted on 9/8/04 at 07:16 PM Reply With Quote
Top quality photo zilspeed where did you get from
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zilspeed

posted on 9/8/04 at 08:16 PM Reply With Quote
Right click the pic and check the properties - I've linked direct to the pic. A bit naughty, but it keeps 'our' bandwidth down. .
It's an american caterham specialist that I stumbled upon






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dave1888

posted on 9/8/04 at 10:10 PM Reply With Quote
Found the site then realised it was american looks good. I have stored the picture as it's the same plenum as the one i intend to use
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Big Stu

posted on 10/8/04 at 07:14 AM Reply With Quote
There are two problems you will need to over come if you want to use this injection. The steering as mentioned and also the diagonal bar that goes from the footwell to the front of the chassis. What injection would you use for this?
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bob

posted on 10/8/04 at 07:52 AM Reply With Quote
Looks like a home made job but will overcome the steering link prob if you have one,also i've seen other builders cut the tube out that runs across a 1/3 of the engine bay.







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zilspeed

posted on 10/8/04 at 08:20 AM Reply With Quote
Re : OE plastic manifold.


I was obviously having one of my 'slow' moments - the fact that it was a LHD car completely escaped me. This fabricated manifold looks much more like the thing for a RHD narrow bodied car. It also has the air intake at the front which has to be better.






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bob

posted on 10/8/04 at 10:10 AM Reply With Quote
Yep air intake looks ok,i was also posted this pic too. Rescued attachment plumbing2.jpg
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zilspeed

posted on 10/8/04 at 01:10 PM Reply With Quote
That looks like a distributor hanging off the N/S of the block






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bob

posted on 10/8/04 at 02:55 PM Reply With Quote
Actually i'm not too sure its a zetec,i was looking at the plenium at first.






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dave1888

posted on 10/8/04 at 03:00 PM Reply With Quote
Don't think it is a zetec oil filler is in wrong place?






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zilspeed

posted on 10/8/04 at 03:33 PM Reply With Quote
That's a Toyota 4A-GE
Just studied the position / angle of the dizzy and the shape of the cam cover.

A friend has one in his sprint car running on carbs and a ford dizzy for simple sparks. Goes like a whippet.






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bob

posted on 24/8/04 at 05:54 PM Reply With Quote
still gathering info here on zetec and box combo's price effect and all that.

Anyone else with any input much appreciated ?







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dave1888

posted on 24/8/04 at 05:57 PM Reply With Quote
Clutch setup tried to get a friction plate today cant find anyone who sells the parts individually only kits. Mind you i got a price for friction and thrust bearing £47 or 3 in 1 kit £44.99






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RobC

posted on 15/3/05 at 12:58 PM Reply With Quote
eariler on there was mention of a QH CCT133 release bearing?? what capri is this off?
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big_wasa

posted on 15/3/05 at 08:37 PM Reply With Quote
Im most intrested in this post aswell, as im already collecting the bits for the job..
I have already

1993 2ltr zetec 75 k
R1 motorcycle carbs (quad 40mm)

Bogg brothers have started on the manifold today

1.8 l escort flywheel
1.8 l escort sump+pick up
mt75 gearbox from 2ltr Dohc..

I plan on using a good zetec clutch,as for the thrust bearing it will depend on how much cash ive got on weather it will be a home made spacer on a new trust bearing or the westfield one....

Question?????
Does the sump need cutting ? I understand that a cut and shut sump is about 165mm and will cost another £200 but for that Ill only gain 15mm or so ?Can I not just put a bulge in the bonnet like the avon?And raise the engine just enough to get the ground clearance?

Question 2????????
What about ignition?? I was going to have ago at megajolt ,but I can not find the info I need to get the bits in this country?? can anybody help??Or if I can find the cash how good/user friendly is the emerald setup??
I would also like to no other peoples experiance on using the zetec.....

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