myke pocock
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Oh realy, get real. You cannot in any way equate a translators wage and the costs involved with that of a main dealer and the costs of running such
an establishment. As we are recounting stories heres mine. A colleagues wife worked in an NHS call centre in the North East. It wasnt unusual to
receive a call from someone who was wanting to claim benefit and couldnt speak Eenglish and needed a translator. The initial call to said translator
was charged as £25 then subsequent minutes were paid at £10 per minute. Also it wasnt unusual that a call ended for some spurious reason meaning a
further call to the translator who was then paid a further £25. Real story or fairy tale? When disabled people needing an additional bedroom for
entirely legitimate reasons (storage of equipment, sleeping for a disabled partner as on the news tonight) are being denied legitimate benefit surely
spurious use of the translator system should be clamped down on. AND for those who may get all defensive I will readily accept the LEGITIMATE
translator system in the NHS>
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Simon
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| posted on 30/7/13 at 10:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
quote:
Originally posted by coozer
VOTE UKIP
You must be joking!
Er, no! Not if we could guarantee labour wouldn't return. Still, if Scotland votes for independence then that's about 48 labour MPs
removed from the equation. And the lib dems can then p/off too as they'll be surplus to tory requirements!
My view on people coming to this country is to welcome them with open arms on the understanding that the reason they came here is because it's
better than their own country. The reasons usually boil down to politics and god, so leave yours at home and try our way, or you'll drag this
country to the same state you left yours, then bugger off somewhere else to do the same thing leaving us with a great pile to clear up. People who are
on the (eg medical) scrounge can be sent packing, after they've been treated and their embassy has paid the bill.
It's all very well saying the British should learn a foreign language, but which one - usual three French, German or Spanish? Italian perhaps.
Emerging markets might be a better idea - but which Indian or Chinese language. Russian, Japanese or Korean perhaps. Maybe do Gallic just in case the
Scots go independent or Welsh - always liked the accent.
I agree we should be better, but then I think we are in the uniquely enviable position that everyone uses English - all marine and aviation etc. We
are the langauge common denominator for the rest of the world and I don't think that's a bad thing - we just got lucky.
ATB
Simon
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scootz
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| posted on 31/7/13 at 12:09 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by myke pocock
As we are recounting stories heres mine. A colleagues wife worked in an NHS call centre in the North East. It wasnt unusual to receive a call from
someone who was wanting to claim benefit and couldnt speak Eenglish and needed a translator....
Why would a man wanting to claim benefits be calling an NHS call-centre... ???
It's Evolution Baby!
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 31/7/13 at 07:25 AM |
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Oh realy, get real. You cannot in any way equate a translators wage and the costs involved with that of a main dealer and the costs of running such an
establishment
A) If the costs of running a main dealer mean a mechanic had to be charged at 85 an hour they have a very poor business model.
B) I'm not trying to equate them, I'm using them as a reference to show the 90 isn't a million miles apart from sanity and if you
consider you pay for skill, experience and availability rather than buildings you will see the original figure in the OP isn't particularly
high.
If we are looking at who is the most value for their wage it becomes debateable
Based on your background and beliefs, but that is a whole other argument that isn't relevant herr.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 31/7/13 at 07:44 AM |
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Originally posted by Simon
It's all very well saying the British should learn a foreign language, but which one - usual three French, German or Spanish? Italian perhaps.
Emerging markets might be a better idea - but which Indian or Chinese language. Russian, Japanese or Korean perhaps. Maybe do Gallic just in case the
Scots go independent or Welsh - always liked the accent.
Polish is the second most popular language in the country apparently. It caused a bit of a ruckus with the dail mail lot but the second language has
got to be a foreign one!
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scudderfish
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| posted on 31/7/13 at 09:58 AM |
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Originally posted by Ninehigh
Polish is the second most popular language in the country apparently. It caused a bit of a ruckus with the dail mail lot but the second language has
got to be a foreign one!
Unless the worst fears of the DM happen 
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britishtrident
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| posted on 31/7/13 at 10:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
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Originally posted by Simon
It's all very well saying the British should learn a foreign language, but which one - usual three French, German or Spanish? Italian perhaps.
Emerging markets might be a better idea - but which Indian or Chinese language. Russian, Japanese or Korean perhaps. Maybe do Gallic just in case the
Scots go independent or Welsh - always liked the accent.
Polish is the second most popular language in the country apparently. It caused a bit of a ruckus with the daily mail lot but the second language has
got to be a foreign one!
Polish was the second language in Fife during WW2 because so many Polish exiles were stationed there and many settled there during the Cold War , 70
years on things are back to normal just a scattering of mainly anglicised Polish surnames to show for it.
In my area what I really really object to is the foisting of bilingual English-Gaelic signs on every rail station in every part of Scotland, the
area I live in was never a Gaelic speaking area they actually have to invent Gaelic versions of the place names but we have to have them because of
a tiny but vocal pressure group.
[Edited on 31/7/13 by britishtrident]
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 31/7/13 at 10:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
Polish is the second most popular language in the country apparently. It caused a bit of a ruckus with the dail mail lot but the second language has
got to be a foreign one!
Unless the worst fears of the DM happen
Yeah but DM readers would be happy that at least they could find a decent plumber or nanny.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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myke pocock
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| posted on 31/7/13 at 12:38 PM |
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Sorry Sootz, DSS. Its an age thing SEE!!!
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scootz
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| posted on 31/7/13 at 12:52 PM |
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Ah! 
It's Evolution Baby!
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Simon
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| posted on 31/7/13 at 10:29 PM |
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Originally posted by britishtrident
In my area what I really really object to is the foisting of bilingual English-Gaelic signs on every rail station in every part of Scotland, the
area I live in was never a Gaelic speaking area they actually have to invent Gaelic versions of the place names but we have to have them because of
a tiny but vocal pressure group.
[Edited on 31/7/13 by britishtrident]
It'll be Cornish signs next. I'm gonna invent Kentish Just for a laugh, when I was in north Wales recently, I tuned into a Welsh
speaking radio station - no idea what they were saying, but quite a high percentage of the words were English. Quite funny really.
ATB
Simon
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scudderfish
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| posted on 1/8/13 at 05:28 AM |
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I used to work with a South African couple who would have stand-up domestics in the middle of the office. They'd rant at each other in
Afrikaans, but swear at each other in English. Quite amusing
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