Angel Acevedo
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| posted on 14/2/15 at 11:24 PM |
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JJJ...
I came up with my previous post after reading IVA Pass Sheet from Rob55
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/23/viewthread.php?tid=185399&page=3
Where it states wheelbase 2320 mm....
According to IVA Side Repeaters MUST be within 2600 mm from front of vehicle....
So to the letter the rear archs might be a good place to place repeaters...
If you want....
If not abide by Note 3 as in my previous post....
Food for thought.
AA
Beware of what you wish.. for it may come true....
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907
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 08:44 AM |
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Hi AA
I think that it's down to how you interpret the wording.
Side markers I would say are constant lights, i.e. not flashing. I have them down the side of my trailer.
Repeaters are part of the indicator / hazard lights, and are mandatory, but only one each side.
I'm sure Dennis the tester would have said if removal was an option.
I did know of the 2600mm measurement as I did at one stage consider putting repeaters on the roll bar uprights.
I already have wires inside it feeding a high level brake light.
Again my interpretation, but I would say measuring from the front of the car is the point on the front of my nose,
which means 2600mm comes to the front of the seat wings, well short of the rear arches. ( see pic )
Thank you anyway for your help, and indeed everyone that has contributed to this thread.
Cheers
Paul G
 
repeaters to be within 2600mm
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Myke 2463
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 09:03 AM |
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Caterham, GBS and Westfield are using the side repeaters on the front wing.
Be Lucky Mike.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 11:37 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Myke 2463
Caterham, GBS and Westfield are using the side repeaters on the front wing.
Got this picture off Westfield's official site - shows nicely where one of their customers put their side indicators.
I reckon you could get away with sticking those LED strips on the side of your front wings without having to drill holes. Removing them and
retro-fitting your originals would be really easy after the IVA re-test. You'd have to ensure that the wiring is properly fixed away from the
top of the tyre and the suspension, but that's just a matter of attention to detail, and you're good at that! 
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907
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 01:02 PM |
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Back in the days when I owned bikes the fashion was to not have mudguards but to have a "hugger" fitted.
Well, that's what I've got on the car.
With 10mm of clearance I thought that aesthetics and aerodynamics are more important than having room
to run wires. Just got to avoid gravel drives. 
Paul G
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 01:59 PM |
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Well, twin wires are only about 3mm thick at their narrowest!
And, after all, they only have to be 'safe and legal' for a few hours... 
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daniel mason
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 02:11 PM |
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That car looks epic!
I'd just sit staring at it if it was in my garage,and get nothing done at all!
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907
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 02:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daniel mason
That car looks epic!
I'd just sit staring at it if it was in my garage,and get nothing done at all!
That's why it's taken so long to build.
I just sat staring at it. 
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907
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 02:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Well, twin wires are only about 3mm thick at their narrowest!
And, after all, they only have to be 'safe and legal' for a few hours...
A few hours is about the limit.
The first stone that picks up in the tyre tread would cut through the wire in an instant.
The sparks would fly as well. A downside to having a bare metal body and chassis.
The whole car is just a giant negative terminal.
I wonder if Dennis would let me go up the day before and sweep the compound ?
I'm going to order those flexy led strips and have a play with them.
Cheers
Paul G
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 02:43 PM |
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I'm sure that you could fabricate a bit of aluminium to cover the wire!
[Edited on 15/2/15 by David Jenkins]
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907
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 04:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
I'm sure that you could fabricate a bit of aluminium to cover the wire!
[Edited on 15/2/15 by David Jenkins]
Fabricate ? Fabricate ? Isn't that what MP's do with expense accounts ?
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 04:17 PM |
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I've got a pair if you want them Paul , I can take them to work (between Thaxted and Saffron Walden) if it's any help
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907
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 05:02 PM |
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I've ordered those flexy led strips from CBS now Mel, thanks all the same.
I'm chained to the workshop anyway this week, finishing off a job for JLR.
I worked today to make up for Friday's IVA trip. O the joys of self employment.
Cheers
Paul G
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ctwv50
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| posted on 15/2/15 at 11:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
I've ordered those flexy led strips from CBS now Mel, thanks all the same.
I'm chained to the workshop anyway this week, finishing off a job for JLR.
I worked today to make up for Friday's IVA trip. O the joys of self employment.
Cheers
Paul G
Lovely car. I wish i had those skills. With regards to the flexi repeater strips, I fitted mine as shown in this image. I'll let you know how I
get on. Tests in a week.
Oops
[Edited on 15/2/15 by ctwv50]
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907
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| posted on 16/2/15 at 09:13 AM |
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Looks good mate. I hadn't thought of mounting them low & facing back.
Good luck for your IVA.
Cheers
Paul G
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The Black Flash
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| posted on 16/2/15 at 03:09 PM |
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quote:
Lovely car. I wish i had those skills. With regards to the flexi repeater strips, I fitted mine as shown in this image. I'll let you know how I
get on. Tests in a week.
Oops
[Edited on 15/2/15 by ctwv50]
Position-wise, those'll be fine - I have an email from VOSA's policy department to that effect, and its where mine are.
OP - lovely car BTW - can you run the cables in some unslit convoluted sleeving, out of the hole where your current repeaters are, zip tie them to the
mirror supports, and stick the indicators to the mirrors?
I think the reason that the side repeater visibility is predominantly from the rear is that it's more for when you are in someone's blind
spot on the motorway, rather than when turning out of a junction. And repeaters are definately mandatory, as said above, side markers are static
lights for lorries etc.
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Dick Axtell
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| posted on 16/2/15 at 05:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
@ Dick
Windscreen supports cut from 3mm sheet ally. (not strips welded together). Paul G
Thanks for that bit of info. Gives me more confidence in my 6mm thick stanchions.
Work-in-Progress: Changed to Zetec + T9. Still trying!!
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ctwv50
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| posted on 16/2/15 at 08:07 PM |
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Position-wise, those'll be fine - I have an email from VOSA's policy department to that effect, and its where mine are.
Good to know thanks.
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907
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| posted on 16/2/15 at 09:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dick Axtell
quote:
Originally posted by 907
@ Dick
Windscreen supports cut from 3mm sheet ally. (not strips welded together). Paul G
Thanks for that bit of info. Gives me more confidence in my 6mm thick stanchions.
Hi Dick
The top part of my triangle falls on the 125 rad of the scuttle, and then I needed a sharp crease. (see pic)
This wasn't the easiest shape to form in 3mm. I would imagine 6 will be harder to shape.
Just a thought.
Pic also shows the shape of the hole needed for the Mitsi repeater, or not as the case may be.
Cheers
Paul G
 
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ken555
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| posted on 17/2/15 at 08:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
The top part of my triangle falls on the 125 rad of the scuttle, and then I needed a sharp crease. (see pic)
This wasn't the easiest shape to form in 3mm. I would imagine 6 will be harder to shape.
Can't you laminate another sheet of 3mm or 2 sheets of 2mm on top ?
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907
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| posted on 22/2/15 at 05:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
Hi All
OK, it's official, I'm a failure.
Four items to fix then hopefully it's a pass.
1/
My demister sucks air the from inside the engine bay.
The fix is to block off with a duct that will mate with the underside of the bonnet.
Louvres in the bonnet and jobs a good un.
I got a chance to make a start on the IVA fail items this weekend and hopefully item 1 is now sorted.
I even got a start on the repeaters. Will post a pic of them when finished.
Cheers
Paul G
 
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John Bonnett
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| posted on 22/2/15 at 06:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
quote:
Originally posted by 907
Hi All
OK, it's official, I'm a failure.
Four items to fix then hopefully it's a pass.
1/
My demister sucks air the from inside the engine bay.
The fix is to block off with a duct that will mate with the underside of the bonnet.
Louvres in the bonnet and jobs a good un.
I got a chance to make a start on the IVA fail items this weekend and hopefully item 1 is now sorted.
I even got a start on the repeaters. Will post a pic of them when finished.
Cheers
Paul G
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 22/2/15 at 09:00 PM |
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Lovely work Paul, as usual!
Just a thought - have you put a little drain at the bottom of that box?
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907
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| posted on 22/2/15 at 10:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Lovely work Paul, as usual!
Just a thought - have you put a little drain at the bottom of that box?
My metalwork is so skew wiff and out of true that there's no way that bottom edge is going to seal.
Cheers
Paul G
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907
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| posted on 23/2/15 at 11:19 AM |
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Temporary re-location of repeaters
Hi All.
The LED strip repeaters are now fitted.
The long wire run discouraged me from fitting them to the front mudguards, plus I desperately need to avoid drilling
holes that may become redundant at a later date.
Instead of the Mitsy windscreen mount triangle location why not just block off and mount a little higher, so that's what I've done.
I hate them with a passion, but if this is what it takes to pass then I'll just put up with them. (for a while)
No aluminium has been harmed in any way in the fitting of this item.
If anyone says they look nice I'll follow them home and shat in their slippers. 
Paul G
 
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