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Author: Subject: XFlow only fires on two cyls
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posted on 31/5/03 at 04:32 PM Reply With Quote
not sure if you have overlooked the pushrods here.ive seen bent valves and bent pushrods, if you take it apart again give them a good check.

my 2pence worth!

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Mark H

posted on 2/6/03 at 10:46 AM Reply With Quote
locost online,

I did overlook pushrods as it happens! The pushrod on no. 8 valve is bent (the side of the shaft is actually rubbing inside the head), which is the same as the bent exh. valve.

I tried to order a replacement today from Burtons, and they can't get any!!





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steve m

posted on 3/6/03 at 07:44 AM Reply With Quote
Do you need 1300 or 1600 push rods

as i do have a 1300 set

or the breakers yard

steve

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bob

posted on 3/6/03 at 08:02 AM Reply With Quote
MARK

Have you tried Vulcan engineering.

http://www.vulcanengines.com

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D Beddows

posted on 4/6/03 at 09:23 PM Reply With Quote
mmmmm MikeRJ - regarding the rule of 9 not working on a x_flow - I had to think about this for half an hour or so just to be sure but (just for a laugh, and be as technical as you like) I'd like you to explain exactly why it doesn't work on a x_flow.......
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davef

posted on 5/6/03 at 07:50 AM Reply With Quote
Hi D Beddows
Mike RJ is correct in what he says the rule of nine will not work on a cross flow motor with firing order 1243 it only works on four cylinder motors firing 1342 with siameized ports inlet and exhaust on same side. what you need is rule of five.
start on inlet valves only when number one is fully open set number four when number two is fully open set number three and so on. when completed do the same procedure on the exhaust valves. cheers davef.

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Mark H

posted on 5/6/03 at 09:10 AM Reply With Quote
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I've u2u'd you mate, re rule of 5. Looks promising!

Mark





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Metal Hippy

posted on 5/6/03 at 06:24 PM Reply With Quote
I thought you could only count to 3 though Mark mate?





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Mark H

posted on 6/6/03 at 12:31 PM Reply With Quote
Hippy - That, of course, could be my problem! Cheers for the input!!





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Mark H

posted on 8/6/03 at 01:45 PM Reply With Quote
Got to the bottom of the problem. And not great news.

The cam follower must have exploded on impact, coz i found the bottom of the follower in the sump!

OF course, the next question is how to get the rest of it out. I may start a new topic, but you are more than welcome to reply here until i can get some photos.

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stretch

posted on 31/7/03 at 12:34 PM Reply With Quote
finding cylinder 1

i've got a ford crossflow 1600, just need to know cylinder 1, at the gearbox or the front of the car??
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ned

posted on 31/7/03 at 12:36 PM Reply With Quote
cylinder one is from my experience always at the front of the engine (drivebelt end, not gearbox end)

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Hornet

posted on 31/7/03 at 02:00 PM Reply With Quote
Defo agree..... cylinder 1 on x-flow, Belt end!..

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timf

posted on 31/7/03 at 03:23 PM Reply With Quote
disagee

no 1 front of engine timing chain end not belt end

just to be correct

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stretch

posted on 1/8/03 at 05:17 AM Reply With Quote
cool, i try'd starting it up last night - no success , but i noticed the starter motor wasnt doing to well, it start to slow down. So i took it off the motor and just ran it - starts off real quick and then slows down - so i'ts going in for a service today
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JoelP

posted on 1/8/03 at 12:54 PM Reply With Quote
sorry if this is daft but thats what a flat or weak battery would do innit? try a charge....
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Rob Lane

posted on 1/8/03 at 05:04 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry to be bearer of bad news Mark but it's a strip down to get the follower out.

The followers are put in with engine inverted before cam is inserted.

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Fifer

posted on 3/8/03 at 08:00 PM Reply With Quote
Just read this thread, bummer on the eventual problem m8.
Just thought I'd add my tuppence worth on the tappets debate.
Although there are many ways to speed up setting tappets, there is one absuloutly certain way to get each valve correct. (especially when a hot cam is used)
Turn crank till valve you want to set is fully open.
Mark crank position realative to timing mark or any other fixed point.
turn engine one revolution.
That valve is as closed as it will ever be.
Set clearance.
1 turn of crank = 1/2 turn of cam on 4 stroke.

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Mark H

posted on 8/8/03 at 10:58 PM Reply With Quote
Follower

Yeah it was bad news - took the cam out (luckily it was the first one so the cam only had to came out about 8cm, then i pushed a wooden spoon up the follower hole and the offending piece popped out.

Put it back together. And it runs! Well, thats a bit o' luck.

Not running"Perfect" but still needs carbs setting up (i said i'd do this straigth after the SVA 4 months ago, but hte thing blew up before i could arrange an appointment.). Will get this done and a few other tweaks before Donny!

Cheers for a ll your support!!

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posted on 8/8/03 at 11:05 PM Reply With Quote
{Waves hand} wasn't me driving when it broke....







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Rob Lane

posted on 10/8/03 at 02:02 PM Reply With Quote
Don't know if it was a new cam that was fitted but it's always recommended that new followers be fitted with it.

If it's not a new cam and you did a stripdown rebuild then it's important that the followers are kept numerical when rebuilt. i.e. No.1 follower No1 lobe.

Wear patterns match up to each lobe. If a follower from a different lobe is fitted then it's entirely possible to wear down the lobe till round or shatter the follower.
Wear usually takes place over a couple of thousand miles on a Xflow and the only indication is a slow loss of power finally followed by what seems a misfire. (Due to no valve lift on the follower)

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