CaptainJosh
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| posted on 27/8/07 at 12:36 PM |
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I remmember when people were happy running 1300 Crossflows...
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 27/8/07 at 02:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by CaptainJosh
I remmember when people were happy running 1300 Crossflows...
I'm still happy with my 1600 127BHP crossflow!
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Coose
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| posted on 27/8/07 at 07:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by StevieB
There was a CBR1000 on sale here recently for not an awful lot of money, that would also give you the full wiring loom and switchgear, as well as the
complete engine and ancilleries. It'd still have a lot of performance too.
Which is now in my garage and has been christened "Jabba the Hutt"! Cheers Dean - it makes me chuckle! 
Spin 'er off Well...
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StevieB
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| posted on 27/8/07 at 08:11 PM |
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Cool!
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iank
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| posted on 27/8/07 at 08:44 PM |
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Originally posted by StevieB
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The reason I'm going BEC (for now) is that the performance per £ is greater (but, in all honesty, I'd probably be a better track driver
with a relatively sane car engine than a mad revving R1).
Up to a certain level of performance, if you're planning to go past 200bhp CEC's start winning again (certainly on price performance)
Like all good arguments (of the pub variety) there isn't a right answer because no one is answering the same question.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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smart51
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| posted on 27/8/07 at 09:17 PM |
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Originally posted by iank
Up to a certain level of performance, if you're planning to go past 200bhp CEC's start winning again (certainly on price performance)
Exactly that. A good BEC of 180 BHP or so is relatively cheap and very light. A 4 cylinder CEC needs 200 BHP to be a match. 200 BHP in a BEC (ZX14)
is expensive. Above that is very expensive. A 200 BHP CEC isn't cheap (you need more with a V8 to overcome the extra weight) but the cost per
HP above that is less than a BEC. So BECs have a zone where they out perform CECs for the money.
the pinto that comes with your donor is free. Tune it up to match a decent BEC and it is too expensive.
BECs in the 150 to 180 BHP zone are relatively cheap and very light.
A 200 BHP CEC is broadly equal to a reasonably priced BEC and is fairly affordable. Above this the CEC starts to win.
What proportion of CECs here are 200 BHP+ ? How many CEC owners with 180 BHP or less hide behind this arguement?
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StevieB
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| posted on 28/8/07 at 07:40 AM |
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I think there's too much emphasis on outright power, and not enough on balancing the right engine to the right chassis - it's all about
power to weight being just right (IMO, anyway).
Compare the cost of getting as close to 400bhp per ton and the BEC wins every time.
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 28/8/07 at 07:56 AM |
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Nope - your all wrong! what you want is nice Pinto....
I'll get my coat!
(FWIW my Pinto install currently owes me >£1500 and it doesn't run yet!)
[Edited on 28/8/07 by DaveFJ]
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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