bonzoronnie
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 11:14 AM |
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Originally posted by Mr Whippy
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You could also contact your local force and explain what is going on. They will be able to check if the engine is stolen.
They will also know the name of the officer & force, dealing with the investigation.
Ronnie quote:
yeah like do it right now
OHHH I detect a note of sarcasm 
I think the thread starter was looking for a bit of constuctive advice
Scammer paranoia is certainly rife.
Quite right, be on the guard at all times. Yes.
AS it turns out. The call was genuine.
No surprise there then.
Ronnie
[Edited on 14/12/07 by bonzoronnie]
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Fozzie
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 11:14 AM |
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I think I would be very wary from the outset.....
Do the police force employ vehicle inspectors these days?.........
Never mind his office/mobile numbers, the first call would be to Hampshire police, or pop in to your local station......to validate the info you have
been given so far.
Also, if the police were investigating the ebay seller, surely ebay would suspend the persons account? if so, have you checked that he is still
'ebay active'?
Assuming the call checks out and all is legit, do NOT try to 'hide' anything....as said above, you have also been a victim in this, the
seller has after all, taken YOUR money !!
As for the V5 with current engine in car, well its not long gone in, and is being tested, when you are satisfied that it is a good engine, the V5 will
be sent in to be adjusted, hence buying another engine 'just in case'....I really wouldn't worry too much about that part to be
honest.
This scenario could happen to anyone of us who buys stuff from places like ebay.....no need really to 'hide'........
Please check out the phone call as first priority with the police force itself ...
ATB Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 11:17 AM |
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Originally posted by bartonp
Much less confrontational and more certain to phone and check his ID before he pays you a visit (get the number out of the phone book, not the one he
gave, if you are paranoid)!.
Phil.
it's ok he's just going to meet him in a carpark and hand over the block if the guy wants it, everythings fine
ok so it's most likely genuine but we've all read the warnings about the guy with the garage full of escort bits etc. E-bays rife with con
artists that's why I don't use it now, the best and most helpful advice is to check things out and I wasn't being sarcastic, for
once.
[Edited on 14/12/07 by Mr Whippy]
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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bonzoronnie
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 posted on 14/12/07 at 11:19 AM |
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Sound advice
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Originally posted by Fozzie
I think I would be very wary from the outset.....
Do the police force employ vehicle inspectors these days?.........
Never mind his office/mobile numbers, the first call would be to Hampshire police, or pop in to your local station......to validate the info you have
been given so far.
Also, if the police were investigating the ebay seller, surely ebay would suspend the persons account? if so, have you checked that he is still
'ebay active'?
Assuming the call checks out and all is legit, do NOT try to 'hide' anything....as said above, you have also been a victim in this, the
seller has after all, taken YOUR money !!
As for the V5 with current engine in car, well its not long gone in, and is being tested, when you are satisfied that it is a good engine, the V5 will
be sent in to be adjusted, hence buying another engine 'just in case'....I really wouldn't worry too much about that part to be
honest.
This scenario could happen to anyone of us who buys stuff from places like ebay.....no need really to 'hide'........
Please check out the phone call as first priority with the police force itself ...
ATB Fozzie
Very sound advice.
The police are there to help.
Ronnie
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Agriv8
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 11:30 AM |
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Though I agree with the 'Be Carful'
But I do know that there is a lot of 'Cross over' of Police & VOSA ect ect ( brother in law is a secret squirel for them ) I know
certain VOSA bods have the right to 'Stop and detain' but dont belive they have the right to arrest ( Yet !! ) .
If the engine is 'Stolen' surly the police or whoever need the engine as evidence / to further the investigation.
RE the engine that's in - play the rules games. It's just gone in and I am awaiting time to get to an MOT station to check that it meets
the Omisions standards set for vehicle.
Regards
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 12:18 PM |
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Don't do anything except be helpful. They will probably take you block (and or bits) away, BUT, a few years ago I had a car stolen. Six months
later it turned up when it drove straight past me, I radio-ed the office who called the police while I followed it. They ( the police) stopped it and
arrested the bloke. He got to keep the car because the police could NOT prove that he knowingly received stolen goods.
You bought the goods off of Ebay in good faith as described in the sellers waffle. You had no reason to suspect otherwise.
Keep calm and be helpful.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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neilj37
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 12:38 PM |
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If the engine was stolen and the police take it doesn't it go back to the original owner or the insurance company. If it goes back to the
insuurance company perhaps you could do a deal with them !!
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Tyne Bridge
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 12:41 PM |
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Well I thought about where to meet the guy, and out of home or the office, the office sounded better!
I will of course check his ID out.
I've been back through my ebay account (bearing in mind it's two years since I bought the engine). The seller is still active! And
digging a bit deeper, I've got his email address and know his town.
And he's on the electroal role.
Cheers
Off to the pub!
"Bob"
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bonzoronnie
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 01:19 PM |
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Wise choice
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Originally posted by Tyne Bridge
Well I thought about where to meet the guy, and out of home or the office, the office sounded better!
I will of course check his ID out.
"Bob"
Wise choice
Why have them poking around your collection of dead engines if you don't have too. 
If an insurance claim has been paid to the original owner the engine will belong to the insurance company that paid the claim.
If the engine is now FUBAR. I dont see them wanting it back. It,ll have no residual value to them.
It may be that the police only want photograpic evidence & a statement.
Ronnie
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Neil P
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 02:17 PM |
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You bought the engine in good faith and you own it.
Unfortunately it's not that simple because the original owner/their insurer also owns it.
Property in these circumstances is usually left with the person currently in possession of it, on the condition that they recognise there is more than
one owner and they cannot legally dispose of it.
It is then left to a court to decide ownership.
Can't really see an insurer going to all that fuss for a knackered motor. Probably cost them to get rid of it.
Neil
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need4speed
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 03:18 PM |
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A friend of mine had a stolen car, when the insurance company wanted it back they asked him to pay for it. He then asked them for storage costs, they
then came to a mutual agreement with him paying a small amount to keep the car. The other good thing was it was really newer than the plates indicated
when he bought it.
Dave
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Macbeast
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 03:27 PM |
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If you buy stolen goods, the legit owner still owns them and you have to give them back, as many carbuyers have found to their dismay. This is why you
do an HPI check when buying a car.
Why not arrange to meet him in the car park of your local police station ?
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bonzoronnie
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 03:43 PM |
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Nice one
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Originally posted by Macbeast
Why not arrange to meet him in the car park of your local police station ?
Lateral thinking. I love it.
Ronnie
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Peteff
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 05:01 PM |
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when the insurance company wanted it back they asked him to pay for it.
When my mate's car was written off as uneconomical to repair he asked me what it would take to fix it ourselves, about £50 in parts and a couple
of days work. He contacted the insurance and they delivered it to his house for him free of charge and never asked him for anything for the car.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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bonzoronnie
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 06:16 PM |
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Storage
The storage angle is not as daft as it sounds.
Now you believe this engine may belong to someone else.
In theory, It would not be unreasonable for you to charge an insurance company for safe storage of said engine.
From the date you had the police call till whenever??. £10-15 a day at least
Then see if the insurance company/last owner will want it back. 
Ronnie
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onzarob
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 10:14 PM |
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Ring the police, why would he ring and give you a chance to get rid of it!!!!
They would turn up, not warn you
If he is genuine he won't mind
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 10:51 AM |
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Only if they thought you were guilty of something. They know very well he only bought it on Ebay so no reason to come knocking the door down at dawn!
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JoelP
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| posted on 23/12/07 at 09:20 PM |
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i once bought a car, then the police contacted me to tell me it was stolen. Came for an interview about who i bought it off. Then they told me the
real reg number, and i recieved a v5 in the post with the correct numbers on it - this because i was, temporarily at least, the vehicles keeper. Note
it says at the top of a v5 that the registered keeper is not necessarily the legal owner. They told me the vehicle was officially owned by the
insurance company, who would contact me regarding settlement. They never got in touch, so after 6 months i sold it cheap to a mate on the
understanding that he became liable for any loss. Not heard owt since, 4 years ago.
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tks
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| posted on 26/12/07 at 09:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Tyne Bridge
OK, well I just contacted the copper on his mobile. He's in no hurry. I confirmed to him that the spare engine I have matches the engine
number he's looking for. He's off to contact Hampshire to see if they want the block back as evidence / to destroy it, or they just want
to photograph it and take a statement from me.
Bloke seems really nice, and has arranged to meet me at work in the New Year, if I can get the block in the boot of the car. He'll then either
seize it or not. He also knows the area well and has a local accent, so probably not some scammer.
Also I can't see the original seller coming back to me 2 years after I bought the engine, driving a round trip of 600 miles to try to scam the
engine back off me when it only cost me £200 notes.
Cheers
"Bob"
this smells badly mainly because he needs to see the stuff and then can judge if he wants it or not.
thats a tactic to not to scare you of taking it to show it him.
i would contact the local police to let them lookup the thing. maybe some smart ass digged up the ebay engine and saw the number on the photo...2
years is allong time to be looking after a stolen bike isn't it??
so how did he came so late by you??
Tks
The above comments are always meant to be from the above persons perspective.
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tks
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| posted on 26/12/07 at 09:23 PM |
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i would just play opencards with him.
tell him you don't trust him and ask him for his police ID number
or better let him fax his id card to your office..
anyway i would only coooperate with him if i surely knew it was the legal force.
tks
The above comments are always meant to be from the above persons perspective.
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Guinness
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| posted on 23/1/08 at 01:18 PM |
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A quick update on this tale. Obviously it was my engine (well spotted Calvinx / Mark / EuroDragon).
The vehicle inspector turned up at work today, wearing full police uniform, and driving a marked van (so I guess he was pretty genuine!). We talked
engines for a while, then he took the block away, and gave me a receipt for it.
An hour later, I got a phone call. He'd stripped the paint off the block around the engine number, had a look with a microscope and discovered
the engine number is genuine.
So he came back to the office and dropped the engine back to me, signed the receipt and away!
So I still have my engine. Anyone in the North East able to lend me a hand rebuilding my engine?
Cheers
Mike
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DarrenW
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| posted on 23/1/08 at 04:02 PM |
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Im so pleased this had a successful outcome for Tyne Bridge
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