tks
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| posted on 2/3/08 at 04:33 PM |
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nahhh
Yes, BIG trailers have had to have ABS for some time, but the point is that passenger cars (M1) do not HAVE to have it, and until it's included
the the EU type-approval directives as compulsory it can't be included in IVA.
The ABS thing is not true its like a heater...
If fitted then it must comply with a directive....
etc. etc.
The above comments are always meant to be from the above persons perspective.
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DarrenW
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| posted on 3/3/08 at 02:38 PM |
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I agree ref scaremongering. Better to get the official nod. I have some friends in high places that have given me some snipets for things that will
affect our cars;
Windscreens compulsory.
No part of the bodywork can turn with the steering - ie front wings must be attached to the main body tub.
No mention of ABS but must be discs all round. Main actuator operating a single cylinder.
Stricter noise regs. Engines limited to a red line of 8K max. You will probs get away with a bike engine as long as its max revs are limited.
Exhaust system must be covered by bodywork and exit the rear of the car.
Tyres must have legal tread.
Horns must be fitted and working.
Electrical system signed off by auto electrician.
Cars without IVA cannot be driven on public highway to a pre-arranged test (ie only reistered and taxed vehicles on road)
IVA lasts 12 months before MOT required.
All very doable imho. Nowt to worry about. Nothing as scary as when they first brought in SVA.
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cossey
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| posted on 3/3/08 at 08:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DarrenW
No mention of ABS but must be discs all round. Main actuator operating a single cylinder.
Stricter noise regs. Engines limited to a red line of 8K max. You will probs get away with a bike engine as long as its max revs are limited.
Exhaust system must be covered by bodywork and exit the rear of the car.
Electrical system signed off by auto electrician.
so no bias bar brakes,
potentially no becs, ie if you have to give reports on the engines power and rpms then restricting it to 8k may not be an option
the rear exiting exhaust will make it very difficult for furys/phoenixs etc
and what will be required to sign off on wiring? certificates?
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 4/3/08 at 08:40 AM |
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I think he was joking 
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/3/08 at 09:18 AM |
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Couldnt resist
Why not wait till we know for sure. When they brought SVA in wasnt there a period of time where older kits could be registered without? I very much
doubt that the UK government could effect a smooth changeover from one system to another within days. They will probs announce it for implementation
on x months time with extension for kits currently in build if you register yours as such first.
They have so many types of vehicle to consider and so many small industries to appease that it will take a wee while to finalise all details. Lets
just hope the kit car worl giants make their voice heard at the appropriate time if some small but significant details are overlooked.
SVA wasnt so bad was it - IVA is probs only a natural evoloution of it.
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/3/08 at 09:46 AM |
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ive just read through the draft IVA document, and whilst nothing obvious jumps out as a point of major concern it is clear that several EEC and UNECE
regulations are referenced. Hopefully the final copy will be expanded to include those sections of other regulations.
I havent cross referenced to the SVA book, cant remember if that simply quotes other regs as well or also explains them in summary form.
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iank
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| posted on 4/3/08 at 09:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DarrenW
Couldnt resist
Why not wait till we know for sure. When they brought SVA in wasnt there a period of time where older kits could be registered without? I very much
doubt that the UK government could effect a smooth changeover from one system to another within days. They will probs announce it for implementation
on x months time with extension for kits currently in build if you register yours as such first.
They have so many types of vehicle to consider and so many small industries to appease that it will take a wee while to finalise all details. Lets
just hope the kit car worl giants make their voice heard at the appropriate time if some small but significant details are overlooked.
SVA wasnt so bad was it - IVA is probs only a natural evoloution of it.
Ah you didn't read the cobraclub posting then, the one that 'leaked' the draft IVA doc.
http://www.cobraclub.com/forum/snake-watch-industry-news/25821-sva-replacement-iva-details-here.html
IVA comes in with a big bang changeover with an expected busy period before it happens due to testers retraining and large numbers of people getting
kits that can't pass IVA going for it at the last minute.
It's going to be chaos out there beginning of next year.
p.s. SVA put a good proportion of the kit car industry of the time out of business on introduction. Whether this was a good thing or not is debatable
I think it was bigger than 'wasn't so bad' seems to be implying.
While it was a bigger change than IVA at first appears I'm still expecting to see some casualty's among the smaller manufacturers who
can't afford to change anything in their design.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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iank
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| posted on 4/3/08 at 09:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DarrenW
ive just read through the draft IVA document, and whilst nothing obvious jumps out as a point of major concern it is clear that several EEC and UNECE
regulations are referenced. Hopefully the final copy will be expanded to include those sections of other regulations.
I havent cross referenced to the SVA book, cant remember if that simply quotes other regs as well or also explains them in summary form.
Yes the 'simplified' manual won't be ready until august, see the cobraclub posting I referenced in my last post.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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