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Doug68

posted on 12/3/09 at 04:15 AM Reply With Quote
Just some thoughts...

What do you think is going on with the brakes?
From the thread, its the fronts that are losing power?
You say you think its vibes doing the damage, whys that? The rotors you have are solid, so they can't be knocking the pads back in, I assume that the calliper mounting is strong enough not to be flexing in use or over bumps?

One other thought is, your MC's are mounted on the floor with the pedals? Which is lower than the callipers? Maybe fluid is draining back from the callipers and pulling the pistons away? There's residual pressure valves sold to overcome this issue.





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jabbahutt

posted on 12/3/09 at 08:41 AM Reply With Quote
try not to let it get you down. You've produced a stunning looking car which many people here are envious of (well I am!!)

The grin produced driving with plates and going wherever you feel like will compensate for the hassle you're experiencing now.






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cloudy

posted on 13/3/09 at 04:00 PM Reply With Quote
Nice box arrived today from Rally Design

Some wilwood MC's this time, they look of better quality than the girling ones, and a remote reservoir. Will get it all fitted over the weekend...

One problem: The fluid sender is only a 2 wire type, my others are 3 wire types which let you wire the check light through it. Is this a problem for SVA?

James





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otodb

posted on 13/3/09 at 07:59 PM Reply With Quote
Hi James,

My car uses a BMW MC & it has only two wires for low level & it passed SVA OK, it is wired in parallel with the test switch which is operated by the handbrake lever.

Hope you get the paper shufflers sorted soon.

All the best,

Brian.

[Edited on 15/3/09 by otodb]

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greggors84

posted on 14/3/09 at 12:49 AM Reply With Quote
You in the garage this weekend James? Im back down south and hoping to get the MK back on the road and insured tomorrow. Might pop up if your about. Its been a long time since ive seen your build.





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cloudy

posted on 14/3/09 at 12:59 AM Reply With Quote
I'll be working on it tomorrow yup

Would be good to catch up

James





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Scouse Monkey

posted on 15/3/09 at 12:30 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
remote reservoir.




fingers crossed it sorts it.

what grade of fluid are you running?

[Edited on 15/3/09 by Scouse Monkey]

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nitram38

posted on 15/3/09 at 06:43 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
Nice box arrived today from Rally Design

Some wilwood MC's this time, they look of better quality than the girling ones, and a remote reservoir. Will get it all fitted over the weekend...

One problem: The fluid sender is only a 2 wire type, my others are 3 wire types which let you wire the check light through it. Is this a problem for SVA?

James


Regarding your check light, it doesn't matter wether 2 or 3 wire as long as you can test the check light.
You need an ignition feed to your light then the other light terminal light needs to loop from there to one terminal on the brake resevoir and then loop to a test switch or handbrake switch. The other resevoir terminal and handbrake or test switch are earthed. Basically you have two switches in parrallel.
Hope that it makes sense!






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cloudy

posted on 15/3/09 at 01:25 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Scouse Monkey
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
remote reservoir.




fingers crossed it sorts it.

what grade of fluid are you running?

[Edited on 15/3/09 by Scouse Monkey]



I'm using DOT5.1





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cloudy

posted on 19/3/09 at 04:17 PM Reply With Quote
Off goes another half inch thick bundle of paperwork to Borehamwood, this time with detailed drawings of my powertrain, showing where all the receipts apply

I really hope this fixes it, I believe the car is due a new reg! I hope you don't get lumped with this martin

James





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cloudy

posted on 20/3/09 at 12:02 PM Reply With Quote
My frustration is now immense - they've yet again rejected the application.

I am now having to escalate...





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Omni

posted on 20/3/09 at 12:08 PM Reply With Quote
OH NO! That is STUPID!

Have you called any of the the manufacturers to ask how they get it through? I have always found MAC1 etc... very helpful.

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O

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cloudy

posted on 20/3/09 at 12:20 PM Reply With Quote
... oh and they want to reinspect the car!





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nitram38

posted on 21/3/09 at 08:31 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
Off goes another half inch thick bundle of paperwork to Borehamwood, this time with detailed drawings of my powertrain, showing where all the receipts apply

I really hope this fixes it, I believe the car is due a new reg! I hope you don't get lumped with this martin

James


I hope all goes well for you.
Last time the wimbledon vro visited me, they only wanted a reciept to prove the chassis steel was new and took my word for the rest of the details.
I'm hoping I get the same person!!!!






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cloudy

posted on 25/3/09 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
Failed again, just on emissions and noise..


emissions I can fix fairly easily

Noise is a whole different ball park, its gone up 4db since I fitted the exhausts, no idea why...

I'm running out of ideas! I've bought stuff to deaden the panels and move the air intake...

James





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stuleah

posted on 26/3/09 at 07:02 PM Reply With Quote
you could possibly try one of these
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p1527/JETEX-UNIVERSAL-DECIBEL-INSERT-2%22/product_info.html.

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Scouse Monkey

posted on 27/3/09 at 06:52 PM Reply With Quote
what about whacking on a set of OEM car exhausts for now?

The indirect path should be better than bike cans for noise.

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cloudy

posted on 27/3/09 at 06:55 PM Reply With Quote
It already has some indirect path ones on there

James





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dr-fastlane

posted on 29/3/09 at 09:52 AM Reply With Quote
What type of air filter are you using? The noise level was a big issue on my car to. Go for a normal car exhaust and don’t use a open air filter. Take one from a production car, the box and paper filter type of thing. Old Chrysler Voyagers v6 have nice small filter boxes. That did the trick for me and dropped the noise level with 5 dB(A).





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cloudy

posted on 29/3/09 at 10:13 AM Reply With Quote
Already had!

Plan is:

Add deadening sheet to all rear panels
Add "firewall" at back of engine with more deadening sheet
Use hose to move air intake to front

Failing all that, ask If I can set my rev limiter to 9000 and be tested at 6750





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cloudy

posted on 30/3/09 at 07:12 PM Reply With Quote
Wish me luck...

A tiewrap round the crankcase breather connection which seemed loose got it down to 800 a side, but only for about 30 seconds after the purge, I'm hoping the test can be taken before then..

after that it sits about 900-1000 and occasionally goes up to 1200

James

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jabbahutt

posted on 31/3/09 at 07:01 AM Reply With Quote
All the best James it deserves to pass






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cloudy

posted on 31/3/09 at 03:38 PM Reply With Quote
And that's a pass!!! Noise was 101 and emissions was 1159 out of 1200HC - talk about close. Now I just need to argue with DVLA about a reg





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airframefixer

posted on 31/3/09 at 05:14 PM Reply With Quote
Congrats on the pass. Good luck with the rest of the process.

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nitram38

posted on 31/3/09 at 05:25 PM Reply With Quote
Wahooooooooo! Well desrved!






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