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yellowcab

posted on 26/1/14 at 07:43 PM Reply With Quote
Not a great update, but I searched and searched on how is best to do the cycle wings without drilling in the wrong place and I couldn't find it anywhere - so I hope this will help other people.

By no means am I saying this is correct, but it's how my mind figured it'd be the easiest... all of this was done with the car on the floor with the wheels on...

Firstly I offered the wings over the wheels, and roughly felt where the stay bars were, and put masking tape on thicker (obviously I didn't know exactly by this point




Once masking tape was on, I managed to mark only the edges of where the cycle wing stay bar started, and finished, then drew a straight line once they were upside down

I've seen some with just a single bolt holding on some wings, but I didn't want them to 'rock' left and right, so I opted four two per stay bar




Drilled the carbon from inside to outside, only small to begin with so it wouldn't splinter out - once the preliminary hole was drilled I did the rest from the outside in, once the hole were in the carbon, I rested it ontop, and marked straight through onto the wing stay




Job jobbed, not really much else to say, tapped a thread in the stays, and put the stainless dome headed bolts in after I cut them down so they didn't protrude the other side of the wing stay bar




But, being anti bling, these shiney bolts stood out like a sore thumb, which I wasn't overly keen on, didn't want to change to black as these were perfect for the job




So I put a nut in a vice, and put a bolt in, cut a piece of carbon wrap, heated it up so it wrapped around and then whilst it was warm I put the allen key in, to stretch the wrap







Despite the wrap being matt carbon as opposed to gloss, and the weave not going the same way, blar blar, I'm still very happy that the fixings are more incognito than before

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yellowcab

posted on 26/1/14 at 07:54 PM Reply With Quote
Onto nose cone, wanted to mesh it all at the same time to not risk the Tigerseal jamming up in the tube, but couldn't so done the tops today

Cut a template from the inside the hole, and added 10mm on each edge


Over sized it



Checked the mesh looked horizontal



Then I struggled finding anything heavy lol, so I left it like this

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 26/1/14 at 07:56 PM Reply With Quote
Same mesh as mine

Love the carbon on the bolts top idea.

[Edited on 26/1/14 by Ben_Copeland]





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wylliezx9r

posted on 26/1/14 at 07:58 PM Reply With Quote
I think the nose looks excellent, really makes your car look different. I wish I had your motivation, Ive got a load of jobs to do on my car before the summer.





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yellowcab

posted on 26/1/14 at 08:26 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers for the comments...

Wyllie, for motivation I book a track day when your car is years off being done, just the thought of losing the trackday money is motivation enough for me! lol

So I'm taxing it on Saturday, then I have several trackdays lined up, fed up of not using it enough and going through engines like there is no tomorrow.

Now I have (or will have) a trailer, there is no excuse for me not to go further to Brands, Anglesey, Oulton, Cadwell etc

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CosKev3

posted on 26/1/14 at 10:33 PM Reply With Quote
Nosecone looks loads better than I pictured it would tbh, looks spot on.

Excellent write up and pics on fitting the cycle wings, carbon topped bolt heads are a really good idea.

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daveb666

posted on 27/1/14 at 08:17 AM Reply With Quote
Love the look of the new nose-cone and very impressed with the carbon bolt idea.

For my boot-lid I bought some black cap-head bolts on Ebay but, disappointingly they're already starting to rust

Are you buying Tax this Saturday for the sake of it or will the car be all back together and working by then?





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yellowcab

posted on 27/1/14 at 08:50 AM Reply With Quote
It'll all be back together by then, got a hall pass down the garage every night this week to get it sorted, she's a goodun!!

Tonight's job is bootlid, no really...

After I finish the meshing and tiger sealing anyway

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40inches

posted on 27/1/14 at 09:00 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yellowcab


Tonight's job is bootlid, no really...










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yellowcab

posted on 27/1/14 at 07:29 PM Reply With Quote
A year ago today lol


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yellowcab

posted on 27/1/14 at 11:30 PM Reply With Quote
So then, wanted to finish sorting this nose cone out, before starting the beautiful job of the boot lid

Didn't particularly like the aesthetics of the bare fibreglass edges of the 'mouths' once I had offered up some mesh, so decided I prefer the right shot here, as it neatens the edge up no end




But I didn't like how odd it looked having one on, and one not... and how forward the mesh sat

So again, I offered up the other surround that came with the nose cone, which doesn't have mesh in admittedly, but again, it neatens up the fibreglass edge of the mouth, not to mention gives it some rigidity, so I opted for the right one here...




Tigerseal came out, and the edging wasn't a great fit, it was quite loose, so cut some wood up to brace it out to all four edges, wasn't enough




Added a centre piece, to push the edges out, wasn't enough, as now it was pushing it out the hole lol




So this is how its ended up lol all the wedges are obviously keeping it in



Couldn't do the top one until the Tigerseal had gone off - so that'll be tomorrow night lol

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yellowcab

posted on 27/1/14 at 11:35 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers to daveb666 for the tip on how to do this - decided to scrap my MDF template, was it was crap, and a bad idea with too many fiddly bits, I think this pretty much mimics what Dave has done...















Want some advice, because my roll cage legs get narrower the further up the cage they go, I no longer want the centre piece on a fixed hinge, I've got the hinge position set so far forward on the car (ie on the rear bulkhead), the rollcage diagonal does not allow the lid to open vertical...

I would like some clips of some kind that will allow me to hinge it to a certain point, but then pull it out/ off...

So when I'm putting it back on, I hold it diagonally, slot it in the forward behind the seats, then close and lock it on the rear clam

Does anyone know what I'm going on about? lol

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yellowcab

posted on 28/1/14 at 07:15 PM Reply With Quote
Think I've fell in aerodynamic love...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dax-Rush-MC-Hayabusa-Turbo-Track-Day-Race-Caterham-Westfield-Ariel-Atom-Kit-Car-/161199226291?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=ite m258838fdb3

[Edited on 28/1/14 by yellowcab]

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yellowcab

posted on 29/1/14 at 06:22 PM Reply With Quote
Bottom mouth piece done, next up is the upper bit - so I tigersealed this in



So I used my template to transpose onto this 3mm Dibond - bloody brilliant stuff to work with, and so much lighter & more rigid that normal aluminium




Spot the accidental error when making the hinged or removable piece lol




Lock mechanism in, and this shows the construction of the composite material too




Slotted the removable lid, not going to have a fixed hinge, it'll just tuck nicely under the harnesses





Sorted, ordered some more carbon wrap, which'll be done





Just for my running total... last bootlid weighed 3.1kg



New bits together (without drill holes) weighs 1.0kg, saving 2.1kg



Oh and my other new harness turned up

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keithjardine

posted on 30/1/14 at 03:47 PM Reply With Quote
Bit more aero to encourage you along with the project










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Ben_Copeland

posted on 30/1/14 at 03:48 PM Reply With Quote
Careful, Oliver will mess himself !





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PAUL FISHER

posted on 30/1/14 at 04:11 PM Reply With Quote
This one could


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PAUL FISHER

posted on 30/1/14 at 04:13 PM Reply With Quote
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yellowcab

posted on 30/1/14 at 04:52 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers Keith - exactly what I'm looking for on both front and rear ends... it'd be nice to know the reason for the effort to mount the rear wing on such large (and heavy) alloy stays, protruding out the back of the car, as opposed to using the rollcage as the stays - unless it's FIA racing regulation of course (I wouldn't know)

Paul - someone put that in the microwave for far too long lol

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PAUL FISHER

posted on 30/1/14 at 05:59 PM Reply With Quote
Paul - someone put that in the microwave for far too long lol



I think you have a point there Olly it might be a bit over the top

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yellowcab

posted on 31/1/14 at 09:11 PM Reply With Quote
Please help for anyone that knows much about harnesses lol
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/30/viewthread.php?tid=188554&page=1?#pid1586518



Meanwhile - this little beauty turned up, so I'm looking forward to the clutchless up and down changes with throttle blipped




Drivers seat was removed last night with daveb666 as he had my Caterham harnesses off me, I wanted to lower it down anyway, as it was pointed out how high I sat and how close my helmet was to my rollcage, I had forgotten about how much crap was bolted to the underside the seat (including runner)



All of it removed, obviously weighed, 3.9kgs of crap!!! now considering the seats themselves are only 3kg, I couldn't believe they'd been unnecessarily doubled (plus a bit) in weight lol



Also, the front edge of my seat from the floor was raised up 70mm previously, and the rear up 50mm (tilting back slightly)



I've now opted for the smallest I could get away with, to get me as low as possible, and now level... these ally spacers weigh 13grams each... so 52grams, down from 3900grams - saving 3.85kgs



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daniel mason

posted on 31/1/14 at 09:31 PM Reply With Quote
any issues fitting the shifter then let me know!






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yellowcab

posted on 31/1/14 at 09:36 PM Reply With Quote
Thank you pal Cannae wait!
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yellowcab

posted on 4/2/14 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
Hallelujah! Update for Dave Mr.Inches.











A metre special of £1.19 black plastic 25mm angled edging to finish the back edge off, where the carpet stops, and my bootlid starts, it'll give the removable part of my bootlid something to tuck under, and hold it down




And a pic of my other decent harness which I'm well chuffed with


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johnny chimpo

posted on 4/2/14 at 08:31 PM Reply With Quote
where did you get the angled edge from?
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