stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 22/4/04 at 09:25 PM |
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did my bit
used the bollox word too
atb
steve
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Phil Allonby
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| posted on 22/4/04 at 09:26 PM |
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oh dear! i did see this months practical classics and saw that article too, in fact that was one of the reasons why i popped in here to see what you
guys response to it was.
the perception that some people (certainly those that i've spoken to) is that locost suffers because of a perception that there is no one brand
that people can associate with. especially with all the makers having a stab at the market to some extent. a friend told me that he thought locosts
were just made up of bits from various cars. this could either be a very good thing: ie pick the best chassis from one place and the best body from
elsewhere, but he got the impression that it was a bit of a cobble up on a shoestring. either that or some amateur welding lots of little bits of box
section together (i hate it on other forums when people refer to it as "square tube!" needless to say i put him right, but i dont
suppose he's on his own in the predjudice.
do you think that a lack of a single maker affects the image/desirability of the locost?
phil
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Phil Allonby
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| posted on 22/4/04 at 09:30 PM |
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?
quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
i have found all the locost/mk/luego builders i have met very friendly and some things they have done for fellow builders really have been beyond the
call of duty,read elsewhere as to how others have treated their own
where should i be searching for eveidence of bad treatment???? give me a clue i'm tired!
:-)
phil
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 22/4/04 at 09:37 PM |
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no
however, there is a form of inverted snobbery, where we consider that cateringvan owners are wimps that just bought in to 'the scene' cos
they dont have the talent to build from scratch.
atb
steve
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 22/4/04 at 10:31 PM |
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"One rung above a Locost, the Robin Hoood is another budget seven that can be built from a dead Sierra on a shoestring.
While the engineering is sound enough, it is nothing to get excited about - but if you keep the build costs down you should be able to get your money
back at resale time"
I hope the YTS trainee who wrote this has been given a P45. It has clearly been written by someone totally unaware of the subject being dicussed, or
the technical issues relating to Locosts and Robin Hoods.
Please research the facts relating to Locosts and Robin Hoods and write an accurate article showing the pro's and con's of the cars
concerned. I feel you would be very suprised by the results of your research.
Such unintelligent spluttings cheapen your otherwise excellent magazine
My contribution to enlightening Practical Classics
Wankers
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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Alan B
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| posted on 23/4/04 at 12:18 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Phil Allonbyi hate it on other forums when people refer to it as "square tube!"l
Phil, why is that?
To me it is square tube, my steel receipts say ERW square tube.....
I associate the term box section with RHS and SHS which isn't what we use...RHS doesn't go down to the wall thicknesses we use, I believe
2mm is the thinnest....
Unless of course yours is made out of box section.
Still I guess it's only semantics...just wanted to voice my view on the terminology...
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 23/4/04 at 05:53 AM |
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phil,look at misrable cateringvan owning bstards
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 23/4/04 at 06:08 AM |
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cant find the article with this steam driven ex russian army compo,anyone want to paste it up or send it to me
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 23/4/04 at 08:40 AM |
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Duh conrod!
Its right at the top of one of the new panels on the LHS of the front page as a popular topic.
It was right what you were told - it does make your eyesite bad.
now wheres that 'post reply button' on the fuzzy screen in front of me 
atb
steve
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JoelP
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| posted on 23/4/04 at 12:38 PM |
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i did an email too. i also pointed out that no seven replicas are either practical or classics...
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Phil Allonby
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| posted on 23/4/04 at 12:40 PM |
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hi alan b
All i know about the box section/tube question is that as an engineering apprentice it was drummed into me that "tube" meant a
"hollow cylindrical channel" and not a hollow rectangular channel - hence the tubular bit. as for manufacturers putting it on invoices
nothing surprises me anymore!
like you say its just a little linguistic nonsense, but things like that have a habit ofd driving me crazy!
and no, my car isnt made from box, in fact its now sold, and i'm at a loose end. it was a robin hood but following nthe work i had done at a
certain engineering firm its been sold now and theres a big seven shaped hole in the garage!!!!!
phil 
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JoelP
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| posted on 23/4/04 at 02:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Phil Allonby
...and theres a big seven shaped hole in the garage!!!!!
phil
get it filled quick then man!
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undecided
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| posted on 23/4/04 at 06:51 PM |
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only way to describe a robin hood? is proper b****** but then you get what you pay for i suppose these days
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chrisg
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| posted on 23/4/04 at 07:26 PM |
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I suppose some Robin Hoods are better than some Locosts, all down to the builder really.
You can certainly make a very nice RH as you can a Locost but with a Locost you don't start by correcting other peoples mistakes, hats off to
the RH lads it's reputed to be quite a difficult job.
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Phil Allonby
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| posted on 25/4/04 at 07:17 AM |
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rh
I'd agree with that, some of the stuff that I've read about on their forum shows a pretty impressive level of ingenuity. The best thing
about their forum however is the sense you get of helping out their fellow drivers (i've now read the miserable Ba***rds thread) With the
possible exception of a few ar***oles i think most kitcar drivers would be shocked by the cateringvans lack of support! their hoods regional
secretaries organise regular trips to current builders who are experiencing any difficulties, so one sunday 20 hoods will roll up outside your house
with advice and help. must be a great boost to the morale too. I cant imagine that anywhere near as many hoods would get finished without the
support of the club. Much as on here i suspect.
phil
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Guinness
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| posted on 27/4/04 at 07:06 PM |
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Just been on totalkitcar.com news page and noticed RH are up for sale??
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Markp
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| posted on 27/4/04 at 09:49 PM |
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Phil Allonby
After reading your post, I have to agree with you. I'm in the robinhood club and I have never met so many people who will help out at the drop
of the hat. The meetings are great, the events which are organised are fantastic and I wouldn't have it any other way. They show no prejudice
about what car you have or drive and the web site never slags other s off.
As for the robinhood ranking side of things, I honestly built my car form scratch because I couldn't afford to buy a kit, I belive that (and
again it's my own opinion) that I am at the lowest scale of the kit car trade because I didn't build a kit car, I built a car.
This was the easiest way without investing alot of money at one time.
Mark.
[Edited on 28/4/04 by Markp]
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James
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| posted on 28/4/04 at 08:19 AM |
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MarkP,
Caught you... I spotted what you've now edited out of your post written last night!
I actually replied to it too- then thought better of it! 
All the best,
James
[Edited on 28/4/04 by James]
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Markp
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| posted on 28/4/04 at 05:23 PM |
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James.
Guilty
I wrote it last night after a few beers and saw sense this mornig to edit it.
The whole topic winds me up, why does one have to be better than the other? As everyone is in to the same thing can't that be classed as
equal?
I know you get the Caterham owners looking down on people but why should we stoop to their level.
Mark
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Phil Allonby
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| posted on 10/5/04 at 10:20 AM |
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hello all,
i know this topic s abit old by now, but i just spotted a post on the RhOCAR site that reminded me of it, and all the nasty things we said about
cateringvans not helping folk out.
a guys bought an old car thats been bodged quite seriously! all the mounts for the front end have been cut off!!!! One of the guys on the board has
offered to strip down his front end for the guy and give him a set of measurements so he can rebuild the front end. and the cost for dismantling his
priode and joy? A couple of pints at newark.
Nothing i wouldnt expect on here though, but good to share, since it confirms that we're all in the same boat, and very nearly all of us just
want to help out.
Phil
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