Rob Lane
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 09:47 AM |
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Just watched ebay for Dean C, he had a bid on the TBs and won at his original bid.
I noticed other 'overpriced' breakers sets end without a bid.
Seems like a backlash on the charge more breakers prices 
Can't blame them trying to make a buck but the prices have nearly reached half of new car version prices. Doesn't seem worth it then does
it ?
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paulf
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 01:42 PM |
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I called that breakers before christmas, he told me they had just sold a set of 750 bodies for £100 but would be getting in loads more as lots of
people are asking for them for cars. He told me that he was importing a container load from the states.
How ever the price has now nearly doubled.Maybe once the rush for them has died down the prices will drop again.
My GPZ1100 bodies cost me £39 including delivery and im sure that they will be ok to start with .Theres also not as many unwanted parts to remove from
them.
Paul.
quote:
Originally posted by Rob Lane
Just watched ebay for Dean C, he had a bid on the TBs and won at his original bid.
I noticed other 'overpriced' breakers sets end without a bid.
Seems like a backlash on the charge more breakers prices
Can't blame them trying to make a buck but the prices have nearly reached half of new car version prices. Doesn't seem worth it then does
it ?
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 07:42 PM |
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YES! got my throttle bodies as Rob says,£84 + 10 p&p
Local breakers were quoting £120 just for the bodies without injector rail.
I really wanted the Gsxr bodies due to the ease of spacing them up.
If anyone has used other bodies it might help to keep TB prices down by saying which others are ok to use and therefore not putting a premium on gsxr
TB's.
On ebay now they are up to £150 minimun
bid for 1000 and 1300 Gsxr TB's.
DEAN C............
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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Northy
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 08:01 PM |
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What can I use on an XE? 
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing! 
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
Built 2L 8 Valve Vx Powered Avon
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stevebubs
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 09:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Northy
What can I use on an XE?
See www.16vmini.co.uk for how to use the Gixxer 750 ones.
However, I think some-one mentioned that one set (blackbird?) 'bodies could be mounted direct to the head. Can anyone enlighten further?
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ady8077
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 09:11 PM |
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Hi Graham
I'd have thought gsxr 750's would be ok for a vx, their 48mm tapering to 40mm
The jenvey site says 40mm is ok for 50 bhp per cylinder, you will have to respace them, sort out a manifold or buy the suzuki mounts, fit higher
flowing injectors and make a new fuel rail
Adrian
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 04:44 PM |
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Well, got the Megasquirt ECU built and running on the simulator. Next step is making up leads for it.
I tried buying some ali tube today from an aerial shop for the manifold. It was in imperial 1 and a 1/2 inch. Got it back aond unfortunately it is
too small. It seems I need something close to 1 and 3/4 inch.
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Peteff
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 05:35 PM |
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Aluminium scaffold tube might be alright for you. I have a piece that I use for a lever and it's 50mm external 37mm internal. Get round the
building site.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 06:48 PM |
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That may just be the stuff. It will allow me to turn down the external diameter to suit the manifold.
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Northy
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 07:08 PM |
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Looks like I'll get some GSXR 750 ones if no one knows about the Blackbird jobbies.
Cheers
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
Built 2L 8 Valve Vx Powered Avon
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paulf
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 09:06 PM |
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I also tried buying some last week and found that it only comes in imperial sizes from metal stockists.I needed 40mm od with 34 id and eventually
found that RS sell some that exact size in the catalog listed as hand rail material, it is in the section with structural extrusions for guards
etc.
Paul.
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Originally posted by Rob Lane
That may just be the stuff. It will allow me to turn down the external diameter to suit the manifold.
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 21/1/05 at 10:54 AM |
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I'm going to slow down Paul, I just went out to garage to check the tube. What a mess, too many projects on go at once !!!!
I need tube that once squashed oval at one end is 50mm x 32mm ID. That's the manifold end.
The TB end is 38mm ID round and 42mm OD.
Tricky one this!
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 22/1/05 at 12:05 AM |
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At least your garage is as messy as mine now
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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stevebubs
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| posted on 22/1/05 at 01:42 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DEAN C.
At least your garage is as messy as mine now
During the rewire last year, mine got so messy it spread down the drive...
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/Dash%20035.jpg
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James
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| posted on 24/1/05 at 03:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Northy
Looks like I'll get some GSXR 750 ones if no one knows about the Blackbird jobbies.
Cheers
Graham,
Can't remember if I posted this before:
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=123424
The pictures has gone but see if you can give this guy a mail and get hold of them again.
HTH,
James
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ned
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| posted on 24/1/05 at 05:09 PM |
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same bloke and missing pictures on this forum too: http://www.valvers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=157
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 25/1/05 at 09:16 AM |
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Bit of progress.
Went to Newark autojumble on Sunday and picked up some perfect ali tube.
It's 1 3/4 inch OD and will crush down to an oval that fits the inlet perfect. The inner bore matches the TBs exactly too.
I have roughed out the manifold flange in 12mm ali and it just needs smoothing off.
Next is getting the tubes welded in position.
The Megasquirt n Spark Extra is loaded into the unit and after a few trials it is now working correctly on the simulator.
Should be a direct fit to harness adapter which will allow the Toyota engine to run directly with no mods.
I saw a couple of bike TBs sets at Newark but the prices were stupidly expensive for not very good condition items. Circa 175 pounds!! With just the
tubes, nothing else!
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paulf
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| posted on 25/1/05 at 10:54 PM |
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I finally got my GPZ1100 bodies today, they are 35mm bore so only suitable for smaller engines but look easy to fit and use standard car injectors.
The spacing of the middle pair is within 1mm of the crossflow cylinder head ports, but the outside pair are 20mm to close together.
I need to decide if i am going to split them or make a manifold in which the two outer ports taper in to match the throttle body spacing .I know the
ideal is to have a straight line to the head but would I loose a lot of performance potential by having the outer runners tapering in by 20mm?
They will mount with 40mm rubber hose onto a plain 40mmm stub, i also intend to make an airbox with integral ram pipes mounted to the bodys to gain
some intake length.
Paul.
[quoteIf anyone has used other bodies it might help to keep TB prices down by saying which others are ok to use and therefore not putting a premium on
gsxr TB's.
On ebay now they are up to £150 minimun
bid for 1000 and 1300 Gsxr TB's.
DEAN C............
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ady8077
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| posted on 26/1/05 at 07:15 PM |
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HI all
I'm planning on fitting my TB's inplace of my twin dcoe's and i'm making some mounts to attatch to the manifold
As i cannot weld ally i've used some 25mm thick ally and 2 hole saws one 44mm for the hole and one 57mm to leave a 54mm tube
Thought it might help others, as i had the hole saws each mount has only cost £3.50, still got to file them up but heres a picture
Adrian
 
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 27/1/05 at 08:25 AM |
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Took a minute to work that one out but what a neat idea
Makes the flanges and joining tube easy.
I needed a full inlet flange setup for the head for the tubes to weld to. I need to check whether straight tube will work or whether I have to fit
curved piece of hose to lift TBs above tube R on chassis.
I have to come out from head a small distance in order to clear fuel rail, it's fastened to head on a Toyota so it's easier than making
one for TBs.
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 27/1/05 at 04:31 PM |
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Took the completed manifold flange and the shaped tubes to Martin at MK Engineering today.
He welded them up for me and produced the artistic masterpiece below :-
 
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 27/1/05 at 04:31 PM |
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Another view :-
 
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James
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| posted on 27/1/05 at 04:49 PM |
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Looks really great Rob.
James
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ned
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| posted on 27/1/05 at 04:56 PM |
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not quite as good as pauls stainless exhausts though 
beware, I've got yellow skin
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James
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| posted on 27/1/05 at 05:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ned
not quite as good as pauls stainless exhausts though
Not Titanium?
Nowhere near as good as my steel one though!
James
[Edited on 27/1/05 by James]
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