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Author: Subject: Spraying - advice please
Avoneer

posted on 27/12/05 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
Now you're really scaring me.

Maybe metal flake is a bit ambitious!

How about a simple metallic grey?

Just thought - will I really need the etch as I am only spraying the GRP???

Won't I be ok with the cellulose primer, cellulose base and cellulose laquer???

It's just much easier for me to get hold of as well.

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posted on 27/12/05 at 09:36 PM Reply With Quote
I thought grp needed etch stuff that can flex





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Mark Allanson

posted on 27/12/05 at 09:37 PM Reply With Quote
Not scarey really, the only bit where you could cock it up is the application of the flakes in lacquer, easier than metal flake though. The mix has to be thick enough to stop it running, if you mix it too thick, just add a bit more lacquer. always try it out on a test card first (cardboard box!)

Don't use metalflake though, it is heavy and opaque, so runs really easily on vertical faces (so bad that they used to apply to tacky lacquer with a cut open polythene bag, and then bury with clear)





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Avoneer

posted on 27/12/05 at 11:08 PM Reply With Quote
Mark - are all the choices you recommend suitable for home diy spraying with all but a good quality mask, easy to obtain and not to expensive?

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Mark Allanson

posted on 27/12/05 at 11:20 PM Reply With Quote
Pat, all the least dangerous available, the easiest to apply without mega bucks of equipment, you could use what I have recommended in a lockup with no fans, but dry heat would be a real advantage





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Avoneer

posted on 28/12/05 at 12:00 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks Mark - I'm listening now!

So, shopping list:

1 litre of "2 part etching high build primer"

1 1/2 litres of "black polyester basecoat"

1 1/2 litres of "single pack clear" (appropriate to the basecoat) - is this the laquer???

1 litre of thinners (appropriate to the single pack clear)

A litlle sprinkling of hundreds and thousands.

How does that sound?





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Mark Allanson

posted on 28/12/05 at 12:19 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Avoneer
Thanks Mark - I'm listening now!

So, shopping list:

1 litre of "2 part etching high build primer"

1 1/2 litres of "black polyester basecoat"

1 1/2 litres of "single pack clear" (appropriate to the basecoat) - is this the laquer???

1 litre of thinners (appropriate to the single pack clear)

A litlle sprinkling of hundreds and thousands.

How does that sound?


You need 1+1litre of etch as it is 2 part)

You need the thinner for the basecoat (MS thinners or equivalent) GET RATIO FROM THE SUPPLIER

No thinners for the clear, it is RTU (ready to use)


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Avoneer

posted on 28/12/05 at 12:51 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Mark.

Will I get away with the hollo's in the first coat of clear?

Got a bit of work/modyfying to do on the bodywork, but once it's all rubbed down with 400 ready for the primer - I'll come on here first and ask!

Hoping if I do it step at a time and on here- will help anyone else willing to try.

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Mark Allanson

posted on 28/12/05 at 01:36 PM Reply With Quote
Holo's in the first coat of clear should be ok as long as you can get the coverage without getting runs or shears, personally I would chicken out and do as much as I could with the first coat, and use the second as a touching in coat. Then bury the flakes with pure clear after a bit of a flash off time.





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Avoneer

posted on 28/12/05 at 01:40 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry for all the questions:

What's flashing off?

And do you mean do the 1st layer of clear with the holo, but a very light coat and then a 2nd very light coat woth holo?

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PaulBuz

posted on 28/12/05 at 05:24 PM Reply With Quote
Painting at home

I painted my car at home in a small single garage.
That said it was a LOT of work & hassle.
I lined the walls with polythene after cleaning out.
After bodywork prep. & priming, I sprayed 2 medium coats of base followed by a drop coat as recommended by Mark.
As for amounts ,I used 2.5l of java blue pearl base & 5l of ready to spray clear.
Primer & basecoat were sprayed using a m/mart gun with my comp.
The clear was sprayed using a cheap HVLP setup from Argos.This gave a good coverage as the clear is quite viscous out of the can. you do get some peel, nothing that can't be cut out with wet/dry & compound.
This is my first attempt at spraying anything, & if I am honest ,I don't think I would do it again,even though it turned out ok
I funds are tight, go for it. Just take your time
One last point, listen to what Mark is saying, I have been following all of his tips on spraying for quite some time & am sure that my finished result is a result of tring to apply them as best as I could. Rescued attachment ebay stuff 173.jpg
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PaulBuz

posted on 28/12/05 at 05:25 PM Reply With Quote
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posted on 28/12/05 at 05:25 PM Reply With Quote
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cornishrob

posted on 28/12/05 at 06:12 PM Reply With Quote
that paint looks good paul, very good for a first go home effort espically in a single garage.

The paint looks a pretty colour too.



I think mark has covered all the point on painting, may be in contact with you myself before i take on anything too ambitious.

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