ady8077
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| posted on 27/1/05 at 05:37 PM |
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Originally posted by Rob Lane
Took a minute to work that one out but what a neat idea 
Makes the flanges and joining tube easy.
I needed a full inlet flange setup for the head for the tubes to weld to. I need to check whether straight tube will work or whether I have to fit
curved piece of hose to lift TBs above tube R on chassis.
I have to come out from head a small distance in order to clear fuel rail, it's fastened to head on a Toyota so it's easier than making
one for TBs.
Hi Rob
I tried to make the picture smaller, but instead managed to reduce the resolution 
Yours looks great, are you planning on making a bracket to hold the TB's too, or just let the rubber hoses take the weight?
Adrian
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 27/1/05 at 08:05 PM |
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I've actually shortened the tubes now to the correct length for the space I have.
There are small two bolt flanges on inlet side of each TB, I will look at some kind of support if necessary but at moment it seems OK on the
weight.
I turned up some ali bar to make plugs for each injector port on TB but made classic beginners mistake and took one last turn, forgetting it was twice
the cut Now I have dead fit plugs.
I think I will turn them down further and use them for spindle plugs and make some more from rest of bar
I always use 'export jpg' for compression and 'reduce image' for sizing. That's in Paint Shop Pro 7
[Edited on 27/1/05 by Rob Lane]
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Northy
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| posted on 28/1/05 at 09:20 PM |
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Are these the right ones?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10534&item=7949802022&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
If they are, they're mine!
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
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ady8077
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| posted on 28/1/05 at 10:11 PM |
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They look the same as mine
But ask the seller the bore size to be sure, you'll have to change injectors though
Adrian
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Northy
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| posted on 29/1/05 at 10:15 AM |
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Cheers Adrian,
What injectors are you fitting? Do std car ones fit these?
Are you making your own fuel rail?
Are they easy to split? Its hard to see from the picture? Do you have any pictures of what you've done to yours?
Could I ask any more questions in one post? 
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
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stevebubs
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| posted on 29/1/05 at 11:45 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Northy
Cheers Adrian,
What injectors are you fitting? Do std car ones fit these?
Are you making your own fuel rail?
Are they easy to split? Its hard to see from the picture? Do you have any pictures of what you've done to yours?
Could I ask any more questions in one post?
See my first post in this thread for a link to some pics.
Injectors I'm using are Standard Sierra Cosworth.
fuel rail is a standard Jenvey item
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ady8077
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| posted on 29/1/05 at 02:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Northy
Cheers Adrian,
What injectors are you fitting? Do std car ones fit these?
Are you making your own fuel rail?
Are they easy to split? Its hard to see from the picture? Do you have any pictures of what you've done to yours?
Could I ask any more questions in one post?
I'm hoping to use injectors from a fiesta rs turbo, won some off ebay last week but there not here yet. Supposed to flow 240cc's which is
ok for about 150 bhp. For an xe you'd be better off with cossies
I'm going to try making a fuel rail with some 30mm x 20mm solid ally bar, an 8mm hole drilled through it and a pair of hose tails screwed in
each end
I haven't split mine yet, but its only a case of undoing a couple of bolts
Hope this helps
Adrian
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Northy
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| posted on 29/1/05 at 09:59 PM |
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Just found this on the Racecar forum:
<
You may want to wait a few months, some of the 2005 bikes are now going to be fitted with oval bodies which apparently (or so Kawasaki claim for their
new 600), are 20% more efficient than a round body. Won't be long before a few of them are thrown down the road. Since the bodies won't
fit anything else, they should be relatively cheap.
>
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
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Ben Smith
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| posted on 6/2/05 at 03:08 PM |
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GSXR throttle bodies
Hi all.
I have been watching this post with interest and have decided to join the fun! I have just bought some gsxr 600 t/b's off ebay and will be
fitting these to a 4AGE engine. I have noticed several other using this engine. Has anybody found suitable injectors for this engine and t/b set up? I
think cosworth injectors may be a little big. They will be fitted in the t/b as the ports in the head have been tapped and plugged from when the
engine had carbs! The car is a Raw Striker fitted with there trac pac 1 kit. Expected power is approx 160bhp.
Thanks in advance.
Ben.
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 6/2/05 at 07:45 PM |
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The Toyota injectors will just fit with a bit of fettling and a new O ring.
Any of the 'green' injectors from a late model 4 age are OK, the minimum from them is 250cc and go up to 315cc. The 250cc are good for 50
bhp each.
Does your Omex have fuel too? I'm assuming you have that from the Tracpac.
If not they charge for upgrade from ignition only.
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jonno
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| posted on 6/2/05 at 07:57 PM |
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Bike carbs
anyone else seen this ?? 
http://boardroom.wscc.co.uk/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=1413842d751c3cb7ee47bd8617439db5;act=ST;f=3;t=24167
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Ben Smith
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| posted on 6/2/05 at 08:13 PM |
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Rob,
At present the car has an omex 100 ecu (for carbs). I have yet to speak to Richard at omex but having spoken to Mel when I was at Raw last week he
said he would sort out an Omex 500 ecu either by exange or upgrade. Not exactly sure which, it was only an idea last week! The current omex sytem has
been great with good technical support from Richard and his team.
The long list of jobs now starts! Biggest of which I think is going to be removing fuel tank for swirl pot to be fitted and fitting extra fuel
line!Do you know what your inlet tube was from in the end?
Ben.
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 7/2/05 at 09:15 AM |
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Ben,
no idea on inlet tube, I just bought some offcuts from the ali guy at Newark Autojumble.
I would ask what the cost of ECU upgrade is if I were you. Seem to recall it seemed expensive for what it was.
Jonno,
I have problems with pics on the WSCC site, I just get little red crosses. I've looked for why, but cannot find an answer.
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 7/2/05 at 09:27 AM |
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Spent best part of weekend with Dean C trying to get the MS working with my standard ignition system.
It has a couple of puzzling points. It will try to start for a second or so but will not continue. The signals vanish.
I need an interface from the coil type dizzy senders to the MS input. It would appear that the signals on cranking are not strong enough.
Quite fun when I inadvertently make an ignition pulse that fires the unburnt fuel in one cylinder and cause car to jump Makes a kind of wheezing
noise.
That's all that's left to do for MS to work.
Once I have timing pulses the MS unit will fire the Toyota ignitor quite happily. It's a bit similar to EDIS module but without the toothed
wheel.
I suspect that this would be a good unit to use instead of a EDIS. Especially the early model Toyota ignitors that have a signal conditioning circuit
built in, they just need a sensor. Later units have dwell controlled within ignitor.
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 7/2/05 at 01:47 PM |
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Not sure if this is the right place for this question, so I'll post it in the Engine section as well.
I know that the GSXR 750 throttle bodies are commonly used, but will any others do? eg: 1000 or 1300?
Regards, Ian.
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Ben Smith
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| posted on 7/2/05 at 04:52 PM |
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Will go and see Mel for a price tomorrow. It is my preferred option as Martin at Raw has said he'd sort the wiring out. This is not my favourite
job! Don't know much about MS system but like the look of Emerald. Dave Walker really seems to know his stuff. This may be stretching the
original Idea of T/B's on a budget!
Ben.
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stevebubs
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| posted on 7/2/05 at 05:40 PM |
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Ben Gixxer TBs on Emerald is the way I'm going (for now - may switch to MS later (when running) and use the Emerald for something else)
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 8/2/05 at 05:14 PM |
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This is a good injector specs link that was posted on blatchat.
http://users.erols.com/srweiss/tableifc.htm
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Ben Smith
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| posted on 13/2/05 at 12:16 PM |
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Rob.
Got the car running yet? Any pics of system fitted? As you know, similar to what I'm doing so would be good to see.
Ben.
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 13/2/05 at 02:02 PM |
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Not quite yet. I've had mixed results so far with 'standard' system. That is, using the MS with standard loom etc.
I've had it run hesitantly for a second or so but then lost the 'dizzy driver' pulses.
I have just finished building an interface board and need to connect it to test.
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 15/2/05 at 08:54 AM |
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Tiredness led to a stupid mistake. I put the new chip in the board the wrong way round. No problem, it just didn't work.
Tried it turned around and it's a dead short, unfortunately took out something on the MS which now doesn't work
I will now have to fault find. It's a right royal pain as nowadays getting hold of components is no longer an afternnon shopping affair! There
are so many suppliers closed down it's hard to find anything except off the major suppliers. Trouble is they have minimum credit card order of
£20
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Northy
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| posted on 15/2/05 at 06:12 PM |
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What do you need Rob?
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 01:11 AM |
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Sorted Graham. Son was going to Leeds so he called at Farnells and brought me a few items on spec.
It had shorted the opto-isolator chip to ground which drew over 3 amps thru it.
25 pence new ic chip later and it's all working again.
Even better news, after no result from the new circuit board fitted on stimulator, I tried it on car and it was trying to fire the engine.
Slight problem though, I think there's no petrol left in tank
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Northy
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| posted on 16/2/05 at 07:04 AM |
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No worries, if you get stuck again just let me know
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
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alden77
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| posted on 25/2/06 at 12:56 PM |
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Gsxr 750's to DCOE manifold?
Hi friends
I am new to this board, and I got here because of this topic. I have a Miata engine which I am considering buying a Weber/Mikuni manifold for,
because I read that the GSXR's mount right to the DCOE manifold, but I see that the Webers are flange mount (as is the manifold.) The gsxr
throttle bodies appear to be cylindrical on both ends, so how is it that they basically just bolt on to a DCOE manifold.
I appreciate any and all responses.
Alden
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