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Agriv8

posted on 5/10/06 at 10:27 AM Reply With Quote
what were those scooters with the padals where you needed to pedal to get them going surly a contender.

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NS Dev

posted on 5/10/06 at 11:00 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by smart51
piaggio air cooled 50cc 4 stroke moped engine

2.9 lb ft, 4.4 BHP, 49.9cc = 0.255


4 stroke 50!!!!!!
yikes, think we may struggle to beat that one!!!!!





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smart51

posted on 5/10/06 at 11:35 AM Reply With Quote
Brushcut BC300 30cc strimmer

1.0 BHP @ 7000 RPM 1 lbft (est) 30.15ccc = 0.036

Or there's the Enya 09 R/C

0.16BHP, upto 14000 RPM, 1.62cc. £50 brand new. lbft x bhp/cc = about 0.0079


Don't laugh, that's 98 BHP per litre

[Edited on 5-10-2006 by smart51]

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StevieB

posted on 5/10/06 at 01:48 PM Reply With Quote
My Volvo Diesel:

163BHP x 265 ib/ft / 2400cc = 18






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JoelP

posted on 5/10/06 at 02:22 PM Reply With Quote
a better comparison would be to divide by the square of the displacement in litres.

Specific output is simply bhp over swept volume, which is a much better comparrison. By multiplying by torque (considering that Bhp and torque are broadly similar), you are biasing the final figure towards power and away from volume. By squaring the volume you bring it back into a more linear relationship.


The example above for the marine diesel highlights this problem very well, a result of 15000 or whatever is ridiculous to compare to results of 10 or 20 for car engines. If you squared the volume on it it would be much more compareable.

area under torque curve is revlbft/min
peak bhp in bhp
engine weight in kgs

i would suggest displacement is irrelevant, as weight and output are what count, along with how it delivers it, not how it gets it.

this would give us a final unit of revlbftW/min/kg

[Edited on 5/10/06 by JoelP]

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thomas4age

posted on 6/10/06 at 09:27 AM Reply With Quote
ok here it goes

4age 20v

Multiply Power (in bhp or PS, they are close enough) by Torque (in lbft NOT Nm) then divide by swept volume in cc

161 x 134 / 1587 = 13.59

still not sure about the numbers though. looks like some importand data is missing.

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Johnmor

posted on 6/10/06 at 09:06 PM Reply With Quote
Good engine for locost

Being a fan of Italien Stuff

My mind went back to the Lancia Delta S4 rallycar.

Cant be 100% but i think:

2.0l turbo+supercharger 650bhp,400lbs torque.

600x400/2000= 120

Serious engine then!!!!


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