James
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| posted on 8/10/04 at 01:36 PM |
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Buzzer,
Interesting site. I'll be Megasquirting my Pinto in the not too distant future. That will be the sacrificial lamb before I move to a more
exciting engine! 
James
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sgraber
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| posted on 8/10/04 at 04:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
wel , ive just installed MS on a 480 turbo for a customer , got a few issues , since im keeping the ezk ignition .
If it were me , i would use the MSnS , and go from a crank trigger , its all in one box then
If I'm not mistaken, and please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, the MSnS uses the 'fast-idle' circuit for the Edis
processing. In that scenario you lose the ability to control an idle-up circuit. By using a seperate MJLJ board created by Brent Picasso
(http://www.picasso.org/mjlj/) you can maintain the fast idle functionality on the main board.
Graber
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Northy
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| posted on 18/10/04 at 08:17 PM |
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Has anyone looked at the "Megasquirtnspark-extra"?
I fancy trying to use this for Ignition only due to some of the fancy features its got:
rev limiters
launch control
nitrous control
etc...
Full details here:
http://www.jsm-net.demon.co.uk
Cheers
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing! 
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
Built 2L 8 Valve Vx Powered Avon
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James
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| posted on 18/10/04 at 10:07 PM |
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There was someone on the MS forum recently who mentioned something along the lines of: "All credit to those geniuses who worked out how to get
squirt and sparks from the same original hardware".
Does that sound familiar to anyone and know what they're refering to? I've forgotten what they were on about!
Cheers,
James
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sgraber
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| posted on 18/10/04 at 10:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by James
There was someone on the MS forum recently who mentioned something along the lines of: "All credit to those geniuses who worked out how to get
squirt and sparks from the same original hardware".
Does that sound familiar to anyone and know what they're refering to? I've forgotten what they were on about!
Cheers,
James
Have a look at this page - http://www.thegebharts.com/megaignite.html
Scroll down to the spark and fuel section and look for the words "new code on MS hardware" - You will see that the MS can control Ford
EDIS, Ford TFI module, Chevy HEI ignition module. So it will advance and retard timing in addition to controlling fuel delivery.
Until now I thought that you had to give up your FIDLE control to be able to enable Spark for the MegaSquirt. But apparently some very clever
individual has now figured out how to control spark using another circuit - This is what I found from the link provided by Graham (Northy) above...
quote" With the current code you have two choices for ignition output. The old codes replaced the FIDLE output with a spark output, this means
that you can't control a fast idle valve any more. The current code allows you to use FIDLE or convert one of the LEDs into a spark output, this
means you can still have fast idle control if you want it. "
The beauty of the MS is that the firmware is upgradable, so as people figure out more hacks, they can be implemented in a flash...
Graber
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ChrisW
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| posted on 19/10/04 at 05:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Northy
Has anyone looked at the "Megasquirtnspark-extra"?
I've got this running on a Zetec powered XR2. Used the original megasquirt hardware, replaced the ignition with EDIS (was ESC2) and used the
code mods to allow us to keep the fast idle solenoid.
Works a treat!
Chris
My gaff my rules
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Northy
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| posted on 19/10/04 at 05:40 PM |
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Chris,
Any pictures of the install or details on a webpage somewhere?
Cheers
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
Built 2L 8 Valve Vx Powered Avon
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ChrisW
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| posted on 20/10/04 at 06:28 PM |
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Not yet, but watch this space!
Chris
My gaff my rules
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Browser
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| posted on 30/10/04 at 07:56 AM |
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There is a chappie on the se7ens webring called Bill Shurvinton who is the UK agent for most things Megasquirt related. He can sell you a kit of parts
to make up your own ECU and supply advice. I will try and get an e-mail address off him if anyone is interested?
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 30/10/04 at 05:03 PM |
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well , if you went to www.msefi.com , youll find bill there - ive had some stuff off him , and hes a very nice chap .
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Micael
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| posted on 31/10/04 at 09:26 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisW
quote:
Originally posted by Northy
Has anyone looked at the "Megasquirtnspark-extra"?
I've got this running on a Zetec powered XR2. Used the original megasquirt hardware, replaced the ignition with EDIS (was ESC2) and used the
code mods to allow us to keep the fast idle solenoid.
Works a treat!
Chris
Do you use all the standard zetec injectors and sensors?
Micael Moose Åman
Petrolhead and all around nice guy
"Don't leave the duck there. It's totally irresponsible. Put it on the swing, it'll have much more fun." //Sleep Talkin Man Dec 23
2009
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Northy
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| posted on 31/10/04 at 11:13 AM |
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Lots of info here:
http://www.msefi.com/
Cheers
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
Built 2L 8 Valve Vx Powered Avon
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Northy
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| posted on 6/11/04 at 05:03 PM |
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Well, I ordered two MegaJoltLiteJuniour PCB's and processors, one for me, one for a friend.
Is anyone else building one? Or a MegaSquirt derivative?
I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the MS derivatives out there, so have decided to start off simple. The hardest part is fitting the trigger wheel
and sensor anyway!
Cheers
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
Built 2L 8 Valve Vx Powered Avon
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paulf
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| posted on 6/11/04 at 10:05 PM |
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I have been looking at the megasquirt site and fancy having a go at ignition and injection as ive always been interested in electronics in this type
of application.
However i have a dilema in that I was going to replace my crossflow with a blade engine which I already have.I dont think it would be worthwhile
building a system for a bike engine . I am now thinking of fitting throttle bodys to my crossflow and using the bike engine for another project.
The one thing im not sure about is if its possible to set up an injection system without spending a fortune on rolling road time, can you drive the
car in a basic state of tune and download to a laptop to allow fine tuning etc ? or does it all need to be done on the run?
I thought the street dyno system may be usefull for this.
Paul.
quote:
Originally posted by Northy
Is anyone else building one? Or a MegaSquirt derivative?
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Cheers
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PioneerX
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| posted on 8/11/04 at 01:38 PM |
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Northy,
I've just taken delivery of a prebuild (from Brent) unit. Me being me, I have already taken it a part of to see inside, if you want photos of a
finished artical I can upload them.
One thing that might be of intererst to you, you should know by now that you need an EDIS-4 & trigger wheel (amoungst other things). Wee I spent
the weendedn down the scrappy to find mine, and out of 30 cars I found only one with the EDIS still in it and all of the cars where flywheel triggered
NOT pulley. So I have had to order a trigger wheel from else where.
If you havent got your EDIS-4 yet, good luck as they seem to be getting rare.
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PioneerX
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| posted on 8/11/04 at 01:42 PM |
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paulf,
Take a look at http://dtaforum.psycode.com/ I found it while I was looking for an ignition map to start my
1800 Vauxhall. It has some downloadable maps that might hep you as a start (ign & fuel).
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Northy
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| posted on 8/11/04 at 06:37 PM |
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PioneerX,
I've got the Edis 4, trigger wheel (from a CVH Sierra), sensor and coil pack cheers
Have you thought how your going to mount your trigger wheel yet? What sort of wheel are you getting? Your 1800 VX and my 2L might not be a million
miles away? Not sure.
Pictures would be great.
Cheers
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
Built 2L 8 Valve Vx Powered Avon
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chriscook
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| posted on 8/11/04 at 06:51 PM |
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I've built most of my MJLJ (ordered the wrong oscillator) which i'm hoping is going to run my 2.0 16v vauxhall.
Not got my donor bits yet so if anyone knows where there are any i'd be interested. I've not had a look at how i'm going to do the
trigger wheel yet. Not much use i know but thought i'd join in anyway!
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PioneerX
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| posted on 9/11/04 at 09:32 AM |
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Northy,
Glad to hear you have the parts. I have not yet received my tigger wheel so am unsure how to mount it at this point.
As for the engines. I have the 1800 8v from the Carlton, so it would be almost identical to yours, by the looks to oyur pictures you have the same
manfold I do and what looks like webers (dellortos on mine). Our cars must be fairly simular.
I have loads of build photos on my build site BUILD PHOTOS SITE, but none of the carb conversion &
the MJLJ, those photos are waiting to be uploaded as part of Novembers build photos. I think with the number of request I have had to see the current
state I will upload them over the next couple of days.
As for tigger wheel mounting, my current plan is to grind off the edge of the front pulley (power assist pulley) and weld the disk to the remaining
section. The sensor I will bracket using the taps holes that hes the power assist pump braket. I will do photos as I do this, but this site is worth a
look. MegaJolt installation
Regards
Simon
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garage19
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| posted on 9/11/04 at 05:53 PM |
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I'm running megajolt on a pinto engine. (the one in the photos i posted with the bike carbs).
I bought a complete unit from Brent because we were working to a deadline.
The trigger wheel from a CVH sierra has been mounted on the front pulley of the pinto. We drilled and tapped the pulley and bolted the timing wheel on
with three small bolts and plenty of extra strength araldite!
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stevebubs
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| posted on 9/11/04 at 06:29 PM |
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GMECU...
Take a look here as an alternative to MS http://www.furyworld.fsnet.co.uk/
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PioneerX
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| posted on 10/11/04 at 09:50 AM |
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All,
As promised, the November part 1 photos (including a inside look at Brents prebuild MegaJolt) have been added to my build photos
site
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ChrisW
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| posted on 10/11/04 at 02:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by PioneerX
If you havent got your EDIS-4 yet, good luck as they seem to be getting rare.
There's thousands of them around in the scrappies around here. Mk3 Fiestas seem the most popular source. The problem you will have is getting
an EDIS-6 module.... 
Chris
My gaff my rules
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PioneerX
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| posted on 10/11/04 at 03:12 PM |
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ChrisW,
I guess they are just popular around here as out of 30 cars only one still had the module. Anyway thanks to that one I have my module now, just need a
toothed wheel (on order) to complet the system. Finally I might get the engine running.
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stevebubs
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| posted on 10/11/04 at 03:37 PM |
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Home-converted Bike 'Bodies
Going on a 2litre zetec - is easier than I first though it was going to be. So far spent less than an hour messing around.
Inlet manifold is a standard DCOE item
http://www.cantcatchme.net/fury/throttlebodies/
£75 for bike bodies
£60 for used Cossie Injectors
£60 for new fuel rail (Jenvey)
Left to do:
modify Linkages between bodies
fix bodies in place (simple angle ali)
fuel rail fixings
throttlecable bracket.
Benefits - Cheap; Fuel Rail is underslung
Aims - to be on the road before Christmas
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