liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 12:53 PM |
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Top Gear Rant
Having missed last weeks top gear (the one with the avantime) I watched it last night on iplayer.
I was so pissed off I had to vent
first thing they should have done was to strip out the car
The £3000 brakes were a waste of time for a single lap, better disks and pads would suffice.
the bigger wheels increased the gearing slowing the time.
so they were 3 seconds in the hole and 3K down straight away.
suspension mods were good
uprated arb's next
then look at the engine power
It could have been a potentially really interesting piece had they incrementally done done sensible things and increased engine output
They are not stupid people and it pisses me off when they pretend to be in the interests of entertainment. Is that what they call dumbing down?
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aerosam
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 12:56 PM |
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I thought the whole point of the piece was "if you want a fast car buy a fast car" not spend megabucks messing about with something
that's just never going to be as good.
Had enough of this dictatorship known as LCB. Gone elsewhere, not coming back. Kiss my ass ChrisW.
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vinny1275
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 12:57 PM |
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We ought to suggest a counter challenge - they give a load of people from here an avantime and 15K and two days, and see how fast we can get it to go
round.....
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 01:04 PM |
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@aerosam
On reflection I'm not sure what the point of the piece was. True it is easier to spend loads of money on a sports car, maybe the point they
were trying to prove was that its not worth tuning cars?? Either way given the choice of an avantime or an elise (can't remember what car they
were trying to beat) pulling identical lap times, I would choose the avantime everytime
it just seems they deliberately did poorly
We could defo do way better than they did
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RK
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 01:08 PM |
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Having NOT seen said episode, my feeling is that they are a bunch of softies, who would always prefer to buy rather than build. They are trying to
prove they are superior, in that way only you English can do! In essence, they are promoting the old class system: "We are your betters, and we
are right".
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StevenB
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 01:13 PM |
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Was there an unmentioned exhaust change at the end as well?
Check the tail pipes.
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peteday_uk@btinternet.com
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 01:15 PM |
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If i remember rightly they were trying to beat the time of an Evo of some description.
Your right it was crap......
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 01:16 PM |
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I'd have to disagree with RK, you should see the ep, they are not attempting to be superior. They are appealing to the lowest common
denominator.
I like top gear, watch it every week and find it mostly entertaining it just gets my goat when they pretend to be idiots.
Whats with the "you english" 
EDIT
Yup some evo denomination
[Edited on 26/11/08 by liam.mccaffrey]
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adithorp
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 01:24 PM |
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I'll say this very slowly. IT'S ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISION. IT'S NOT REAL.
The whole point is to get as many people watching as possible. Staging improbable "challenges" and editing hours/days of footage together
into a neat little story of 3 buffoons playing about with cars has proven to be a good way of doing that.
adrian
ps. The BBC aren't following Merlin the Wizard around making a documentary about his life either.
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TOO BADD
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 01:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by peteday_uk@btinternet.com
If i remember rightly they were trying to beat the time of an Evo of some description.
Your right it was crap......
YOU ARE A BRAVE MAN POSTING YOUR ADDRESS ABOVE YOUR AVATAR FOR THE WORLD TO SEE !!! 
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 01:32 PM |
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I'LL SAY THIS VERY SLOWLY FOR ADITHORP,
if you had read my comments you would know I understand that it is an entertainment show and what i took issue with was people pretending to be stupid
for entertainment. I actually really like top gear 98% of the time.
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BenB
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 02:50 PM |
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I thought it could have been an interesting challenge but it appears they decided to be stupid about it instead, which was a shame. A discussion
unsprung weight, anti-roll bars and engine tuning would have been a lot more interesting. I wonder who enjoyed the piece was aimed at??
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iscmatt
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 03:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by StevenB
Was there an unmentioned exhaust change at the end as well?
Check the tail pipes.
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haha i noticed that too! though jez did say briefly something about " oh you might notice my new exhaust" as the car was going round the
track
Cheeky!!
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stevebubs
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 03:04 PM |
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I watching it and my initial reaction was they were simply taking the wee out of the boy racer mods and showing most of them were worthless other
than as a piece of bling to jazz up a polished snail...
[Edited on 26/11/08 by stevebubs]
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stevebubs
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 03:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BenB
I thought it could have been an interesting challenge but it appears they decided to be stupid about it instead, which was a shame. A discussion
unsprung weight, anti-roll bars and engine tuning would have been a lot more interesting. I wonder who enjoyed the piece was aimed at??
(Hint: not the 5% of viewers who would understand it...)
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will121
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 04:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iscmatt
quote:
Originally posted by StevenB
Was there an unmentioned exhaust change at the end as well?
Check the tail pipes.
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haha i noticed that too! though jez did say briefly something about " oh you might notice my new exhaust" as the car was going round the
track
Cheeky!!
must just add it did sound good, even my 12 year old daughter said it!
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adithorp
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 04:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
I'LL SAY THIS VERY SLOWLY FOR ADITHORP,
if you had read my comments you would know I understand that it is an entertainment show and what i took issue with was people pretending to be stupid
for entertainment. I actually really like top gear 98% of the time.
Sorry, it was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek ...and your clarification came up while I was typing (I do that really slowly as well) so the only
clue I had was in the final sentance of your first post.
adrian
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 05:10 PM |
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mine was meant that way too, i guess tongue in cheek doesn't come across too well in written word does it 
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adithorp
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 05:23 PM |
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Guess I ought to remember to add an when I post like that. Second time this week I've cocked up.
adrian
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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Daimo_45
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 05:56 PM |
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Just think how good that piece would have been if it was on fifth gear!!!! We need to remember top gear is aimed at eastender watching, hello
reading, women and 14yr old kids who like seeing things get blown up.
[Edited on 26/11/08 by Daimo_45]
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johnston
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 06:02 PM |
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I think it just proved how little clarkson and co know about mechanics!!! but was still funny.
But seen as we are all better how would we have spent the money and in what order, for me.
1, get rid of all the crap inside
2, service, new tyres, uprated discs pads
3, new suspension, bushes and anti roll bars
I thought they were daft going for fully adjustable suspension, takes too long and too much knowledge for them to set up..
[Edited on 26/11/08 by johnston]
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Hellfire
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 07:04 PM |
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1 - Strip out everything that isn't needed. And I mean everything
2 - Fit a bike engine. (Bet nobody expected me to say that!! )
Job done with a few grand to spare. 
Phil
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Phil.J
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 07:33 PM |
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As said it's an entertainment show, all scripted, and what they show is not real and just what they think the audience well like.
A few years back they raced a Porsche against a helicopter around a race track. They showed the Porsche winning, but a friend of a friend was the
chopper pilot, and he told us he beat the Porsche easily, but it was refilmed and he was asked to go slower so it appeared to show the Porsche winning
as that was what they wanted to fit the script.
As I said, it's all made up just to entertain and capture a 'laddish' audience.
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 07:33 PM |
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with 15k i could have made me volvo go quicker .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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johnston
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| posted on 26/11/08 at 08:16 PM |
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Or build 60 of ron champions cars that woulda been quicker
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