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sparkplug

posted on 12/10/09 at 09:03 AM Reply With Quote
nib 3.14 diff value

Hi,

I have a brand new, still boxed, Ford 3.14 crown and pinion. I have been saving it for my Sierra project but money talks and I would want to find how much its worth.

It was bought originally as a spare for a hill climb car and was one of the last two ever at Ford.

So what do you think its worth.

Dave

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posted on 12/10/09 at 09:11 AM Reply With Quote
Think i could rustle up a pound for it.

Difficult to price i would think as people would have to factor fitting it in a casing and setting it up.

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SeaBass

posted on 12/10/09 at 09:19 AM Reply With Quote
Great first post! £3.14? Did I get it right?
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sparkplug

posted on 12/10/09 at 09:33 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by CRAIGR
Think i could rustle up a pound for it.

Difficult to price i would think as people would have to factor fitting it in a casing and setting it up.


True, but I you would need to do that with any 3.14 diff as none came in a LSD format and surly thats a must.

Dave

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posted on 12/10/09 at 09:33 AM Reply With Quote
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Great first post! £3.14? Did I get it right?


I think the postage would be more that that

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posted on 12/10/09 at 09:39 AM Reply With Quote
Not all true as most people would buy a 3.14 diff already in a casing and fit their lsd into that casing and just setup the backlash hence no reason for removing the pinion and having to reset that .
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Originally posted by CRAIGR
Think i could rustle up a pound for it.

Difficult to price i would think as people would have to factor fitting it in a casing and setting it up.


True, but I you would need to do that with any 3.14 diff as none came in a LSD format and surly thats a must.

Dave

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sparkplug

posted on 12/10/09 at 09:44 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by CRAIGR
Not all true as most people would buy a 3.14 diff already in a casing and fit their lsd into that casing and just setup the backlash hence no reason for removing the pinion and having to reset that .
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Originally posted by sparkplug
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Originally posted by CRAIGR
Think i could rustle up a pound for it.

Difficult to price i would think as people would have to factor fitting it in a casing and setting it up.


True, but I you would need to do that with any 3.14 diff as none came in a LSD format and surly thats a must.

Dave



That's true you would need to set the pinion which does take a bit of time.

Dave

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Triggerhappy

posted on 12/10/09 at 10:51 AM Reply With Quote
Does it fit both 7" and 7,5" diff?

If it fit 7" let me know your price!





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sparkplug

posted on 12/10/09 at 10:58 AM Reply With Quote
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Does it fit both 7" and 7,5" diff?

If it fit 7" let me know your price!


Its for a 7" diff. and I'm asking what is its price so you could make me an offer as that will help me deicide its price.

Dave

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Guinness

posted on 12/10/09 at 11:39 AM Reply With Quote
I've seen 3.14's go for upwards of £300, but that is in a case and put together, although un tested.

I'd start around the same mark for a BNIB one.

Out of interest, as there is so much demand for the 3.14 ratio, would you not be better off taking it round a few gear cutters and getting quotes to take a pattern off the new one? Then we could have a new supply of 3.14's?

Mike






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Triggerhappy

posted on 12/10/09 at 11:56 AM Reply With Quote
Quantum has 3,14´s for sale at £215 + VAT for an used diff so i really think there is an inflation.

Some gold digger on e-bay try to rob you of 500 quid for an used on....BRAVO!

And again, 3,14 is an really high gearing for most BEC´s.....Busas and zzr1400 would make an good pull still, but it will be quite high for R1´s and ZX9´s...even worse for blade´s.





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macspeedy

posted on 12/10/09 at 12:04 PM Reply With Quote
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fesycresy

posted on 12/10/09 at 02:37 PM Reply With Quote
Quantum hasn't had a 3.14 in for years !

They've never pulled it from their website, I think it gets more people talking about Quantum than the cars.

Give them a call





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mads

posted on 12/10/09 at 04:45 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guinness
Out of interest, as there is so much demand for the 3.14 ratio, would you not be better off taking it round a few gear cutters and getting quotes to take a pattern off the new one? Then we could have a new supply of 3.14's?

Mike


I second that idea.





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sparkplug

posted on 12/10/09 at 06:03 PM Reply With Quote
I have linked to some pictures of the c&p as promised. I linked to them as each picture is very large.



http://www.xr4register.com/temp/diff/dsc04126.jpg

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http://www.xr4register.com/temp/diff/dsc04133.jpg

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http://www.xr4register.com/temp/diff/dsc04143.jpg

http://www.xr4register.com/temp/diff/dsc04144.jpg

Thanks to everyone who have sent a U2U and I will look them soon.

Dave

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sparkplug

posted on 14/10/09 at 08:37 AM Reply With Quote
Just an update.

I received several U2U messages within hours of posting this thread and I have decided to sell to someone I hope will be able to get copies made which I hope will help the wider community.

I really did not want to sell as I also want that ratio but I have a bigger struggle as as my project is 4x4 so I also need a 3.14 front c&p which has been made in the past as a special order but as a single one off it will cost well over £1000 which is not feasible ATM.

Anyway I will hope to keep you all informed to what happens with regard to copies being made etc.

Many thanks for all your comments and interest.

Dave

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PAUL FISHER

posted on 14/10/09 at 10:42 AM Reply With Quote
I looked into this very thing a couple of years ago when I was looking for a 3.14,at getting some manufactured and selling them,I thought I would be onto a good thing,but I found a company already producing them in a 3.1 ratio for the Sierra 7",but anyway after a few preliminary enquiries found the manufacturing costs prohibitive,as they are a very expensive item to manufacture,and unless your buying them in very large numbers,doubt you could get anyone to make you some for less than £500 in the uk,China would be cheaper but how long would they last?.

[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]

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Tralfaz

posted on 14/10/09 at 11:40 AM Reply With Quote
Agreed.

While this would be great, I doubt it will happen. We looked into getting the old Mazda 3.31 R&P made here in the states for the MX-5 differential. A min quantity of 100 was required.

To fund this the Group needed to get over half of the items paid for up front. I think they managed to get 5.


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