vinny1275
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 08:21 AM |
|
|
OT: sleeping
Morning all,
This morning, swmbo told me that sometimes when she wakes up in the night, I can be breathing very shallowly (if that's not already a word, it
should be), or seem to be almost holding my breath in my sleep, so she gets worried that I'm going to suffocate myself and pokes me in the
ribs.
I think I'm just in REM sleep when she notices this, so my body's effectively paralysed. This would also explain why I wake up feeling
knackered, even though I don't think I've woken up all night - she's put me out of REM sleep, but I've just gone back a step,
not woken up.
I know there are a few docs on here - can I just tell her to please stop poking me? 
Cheers
Vince
|
|
|
|
|
BenB
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 08:29 AM |
|
|
You're not going to suffocate but you could have Obstructive Sleep Apnoea.... Common cause of people feeling knackered all the time. It might be
worth being referred to a sleep clinic to have your blood oxygen monitored overnight that will soon tell you if you've got it...
but yes you can tell your wife to stop poking you, Sleep Apnoeics don't stop breathing completely...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_apnea
|
|
|
chrsgrain
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 08:36 AM |
|
|
Yep - as Ben says... most likely its just normal breathing which varies with sleeping cycle, nothing to worry about.
A few clues to the obstructive sleep apnoea thing - in order for it to be likely you will a) be fat b) snore a lot and c) score highly (more than 10
or so) on the Epworth sleepiness score link here
If you have 2 of the above 3, pop along to your GP with the story you have told us, and the result of the Epworth.
Chris
Spoing! - the sound of an irony meter breaking...
|
|
|
speedyxjs
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 08:40 AM |
|
|
Yep, sounds like sleep apnoea. My friend has it and she has to sleep with a mask which she said was awkward at first but she now says she sleeps
better than she ever has.
Worth going to the GP though as what essentially happens is that you stop breathing.
|
|
|
Macbeast
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 08:47 AM |
|
|
It's usually the wife who tells the husband to stop poking her
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
|
|
|
chrsgrain
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 08:47 AM |
|
|
^^^^ I'm starting to get a bit worried about (and fed up with) people who really don't know what they are talking about giving (albeit
well meaning) advice on an internet forum with little or no information, and almost no knowledge, to base that opinion on. I could reference several
recent threads that I have deliberately not posted on, but some of the "advice" has been downright dangerous.
It is very difficult to diagnose anything even in person, let alone on line, and one persons friend / realtive/ or indeed self with similar stuff may
have something completely different.....
Ben and I know what we are talking about, and we are deliberately and specifically vague and general in our responses as we know there could be lots
of things going on....
PLEASE, don't give unfounded and potentially dangerous (and usually very dogmatic and authoritative sounding) advice online......
Speedy - this doesn't really all apply to you, but its the straw that broke this camels back I'm afraid! 
Chris
Spoing! - the sound of an irony meter breaking...
|
|
|
vinny1275
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 08:51 AM |
|
|
I was wondering about sleep apnoea, I do snore a bit and I'm a bit overweight, but not fat. I'll check out the sleepiness score thing,
thanks Chris.
I'll ask her to stop poking and see if I feel more rested in the mornings...
|
|
|
l0rd
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 08:54 AM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by chrsgrain
^^^^ I'm starting to get a bit worried about (and fed up with) people who really don't know what they are talking about giving (albeit
well meaning) advice on an internet forum with little or no information, and almost no knowledge, to base that opinion on. I could reference several
recent threads that I have deliberately not posted on, but some of the "advice" has been downright dangerous.
It is very difficult to diagnose anything even in person, let alone on line, and one persons friend / realtive/ or indeed self with similar stuff may
have something completely different.....
Ben and I know what we are talking about, and we are deliberately and specifically vague and general in our responses as we know there could be lots
of things going on....
PLEASE, don't give unfounded and potentially dangerous (and usually very dogmatic and authoritative sounding) advice online......
Speedy - this doesn't really all apply to you, but its the straw that broke this camels back I'm afraid!
Chris
+1
But, Nothing personal, as BenB knows my story, sometimes, even the GPs don't know what is going on even though, they have seen you in person.
|
|
|
chrsgrain
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 08:56 AM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by l0rd
[
But, Nothing personal, as BenB knows my story, sometimes, even the GPs don't know what is going on even though, they have seen you in person.
I frequently don't know what's going on - even in a hospital with lots of machines that go ping and a lot more time than the GP's
have - medicine is difficult, even in person.....
Chris
Spoing! - the sound of an irony meter breaking...
|
|
|
whitestu
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 09:01 AM |
|
|
quote:
PLEASE, don't give unfounded and potentially dangerous (and usually very dogmatic and authoritative sounding) advice online
I'm sure it doesn't apply to you guys, but in my experience GPs are not exempt from this either [not online obviously]!
Their willingness to prescribe all manner of drugs, particularly anti depressants, to get someome out of the door amazes me!
Stu
[Edited on 22/1/10 by whitestu]
|
|
|
trikerneil
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 09:03 AM |
|
|
I was diagnosed with OSA about 10 years ago.
I went to the Dr after waking up on the M1 central reservation rumble strips still doing 90mph.
Sleeping with the CPAP machine has changed my life.
Don't leave it, get proper medical advice
Just my opinion of course.
Neil
ACE Cafe - Just say No.
|
|
|
chrsgrain
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 09:15 AM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by trikerneil
I went to the Dr after waking up on the M1 central reservation rumble strips still doing 90mph.
Sleeping with the CPAP machine has changed my life.
That is fairly common, the most amazing 'sleep' thing I have heard, is someone who couldn't take lifts as they fell asleep between 1
floor and the next, they had to walk upstairs to stay awake!
Chris
Spoing! - the sound of an irony meter breaking...
|
|
|
Macbeast
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 10:56 AM |
|
|
Would you go to a medical website for advice about setting your ignition timing ?
Go see a doctor :-)
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
|
|
|
smart51
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 11:04 AM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by trikerneil
Sleeping with the CPAP machine has changed my life.
I read this 7 or 8 times before I saw the word cPap rather than cRap. Personally, I'd want a really good machine.
|
|
|
MikeCapon
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 11:11 AM |
|
|
+1 for the benefits of being diagnosed if you do have sleep apnea. I was diagnosed in 2002 and the effect of the CPAP was like turbocharged sleep for
me!
I went from being sleepy all day, a horrible condition that effects everything you do, to having loads of energy, both mental and physical.
|
|
|
pewe
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 11:15 AM |
|
|
Slightly off topic but related was the TV prog about the Narcolepsy Association or whatever it's called.
During their council meetings they showed that they had to have 2 or 3 people recording the minutes as one person doing the job was likely to fall
asleep whilst the meeting was on - and it proved to be true!
Cheers, Pewe
|
|
|
OX
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 11:33 AM |
|
|
People have said to me in the past that i look like i stop breathing in my sleep ,i just put that down to having asthma .the first time it happened i
was 14 and living at home and woke up in the middle of the nignt with my folks sitting on the edge of my bed wondering if i was going to make it
through the night. From then on it was just the norm. Everygirlfriend i've had has said the same thing but they never wake me up ,,they just
tell me in the morning that they were worried because it looks like id stopped breathing . On the weekend if i dont set my alarm i can sleep for a
constant 12 hours with ease but i feel drained all day ,during the week im at my best with only 5-6 hours sleep a day but i need 2 alarms to wake me
up .
Just been to one of the websites that ben put a link to and i score 0 on them all .
I know this doesnt help you Vince ,just saying thats all
|
|
|
vinny1275
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 12:00 PM |
|
|
Thanks for all the replies - just to put your minds at rest - I generally have no problems with energy or sleepiness during the day, and I'm not
worried that I have sleep apnoea - it's just that this week I've been having a full night's sleep every night but not feeling the
benefit of it. It was only this morning when swmbo mentioned she's been nudging me every night that I twigged what was happening!
I wasn't after a diagnosis, just an informed opinion that she could stop poking me in the ribs while I'm sleeping!!
Cheers
Vince
|
|
|
MikeR
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 12:20 PM |
|
|
sleep on the sofa tonight and see if you feel better in the morning (or if she really loves you, get her to sleep on the sofa).
Also, don't drink before you do this test, alcohol is supposed to upset your sleeping patterns - i don't understand it myself as i seem to
get to sleep really well after one drink.
if she's not keen on this, mention how sexy her sister / brother looked the last time you saw them and why can't she dress like that -
should get one of your on the sofa pretty quickly
|
|
|
TimC
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 12:25 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by vinny1275
I generally have no problems with energy
So what is your excuse for not updating your blog in 11 months Vince?
Hope you sort out the sleep thing!
|
|
|
Steve G
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 12:30 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by chrsgrain
PLEASE, don't give unfounded and potentially dangerous (and usually very dogmatic and authoritative sounding) advice online......
Speedy - this doesn't really all apply to you, but its the straw that broke this camels back I'm afraid!
Chris
I'm a bit baffled by the above really. From what i've read of Speedy's post (which doesnt say it's been edited), all
he's stated is a fact about a friend of his and then said speak to a doctor for medical advice.
The above comes across as pretty harsh to me - maybe i'm on my own on this??
I'd agree with internet advice on medical issues being potentially dangerous - but maybe the blame should lie with posting medical queries
online?? No offence to any of the doctors on here, but anyone online can claim to be a doctor or anything else for that matter.
|
|
|
BenB
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 01:15 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by Steve G
[but anyone online can claim to be a doctor or anything else for that matter.
Sure can I can't even play golf, how can I be a GP?
Not just online anyway e.g. Gillian McKeith. She appeared to want to want to bring medicine back to medaeival levels of knowledge. e.g. spending hours
gazing at peoples faeces and urine whilst recommending treatments with absolutely no evidence for them whatsoever.
|
|
|
iank
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 01:46 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by Steve G
quote:
Originally posted by chrsgrain
PLEASE, don't give unfounded and potentially dangerous (and usually very dogmatic and authoritative sounding) advice online......
Speedy - this doesn't really all apply to you, but its the straw that broke this camels back I'm afraid!
Chris
I'm a bit baffled by the above really. From what i've read of Speedy's post (which doesnt say it's been edited), all
he's stated is a fact about a friend of his and then said speak to a doctor for medical advice.
The above comes across as pretty harsh to me - maybe i'm on my own on this??
I'd agree with internet advice on medical issues being potentially dangerous - but maybe the blame should lie with posting medical queries
online?? No offence to any of the doctors on here, but anyone online can claim to be a doctor or anything else for that matter.
No I agree, speedy's post doesn't seem out of order, but I assumed there was a post that had been deleted.
--
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
|
|
|
vinny1275
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 01:49 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by TimC
quote:
Originally posted by vinny1275
I generally have no problems with energy
So what is your excuse for not updating your blog in 11 months Vince?
Hope you sort out the sleep thing!
Energy, no problem. Looking at a laptop after all day looking at one at work, not so much...
After the humiliation and dejection at missing the SVA test, we didn't do anything to the car for a while, then did bits and pieces, and then
came up with the idea of moving to the other side of the world! Doing some more to the car this weekend, will try and update the blog as well...
|
|
|
TimC
|
| posted on 22/1/10 at 01:53 PM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by vinny1275then came up with the idea of moving to the other side of the world! Doing some more to the car this
weekend, will try and update the blog as well...
I only ever update mine in work. Re: Oz. We're aiming to be out there for Bathurst in October... will you be there by then?
|
|
|
