BenB
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:06 PM |
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OMG! Are we in the middle ages or something? How the hell can these things be sold legally?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8471187.stm
40k for a piece of wire and a card.
If the consequences of the device failure weren't so tragic I'd so good luck to the blatant con artist.
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balidey
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:09 PM |
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Jesus H Christ on a stick. 
quote:
The training manual for the device says it can even, with the right card, detect elephants, humans and 100 dollar bills.
Did no one think of inserting the 'Will this detect a bomb detector' card
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BenB
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:11 PM |
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Elephants really aren't that hard to detect. They kind of stand out.
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smart51
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:13 PM |
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I almost wish I had the brass neck needed to peddle utter bullshit so convincingly.
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balidey
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:14 PM |
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Are you cheating? I bet you used an elephant detector didn't you 
Are we going to be on the receiving end of retaliation now? Not like Iraqis to hold a grudge is it?
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snakebelly
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:15 PM |
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send him to Iraq to work on a high risk checkpoint for a year or two i reckon
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Jasper
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:15 PM |
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Scroll down till you get to the picture of the arsehole selling them, he looks like Ming the Merciless with those eyebrows!!!
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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whitestu
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:21 PM |
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Who would pay £40k for one without some evidence it worked though?
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iank
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:24 PM |
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Knowing desperate people really want to believe is the basis of all successful conmen, and has worked since the time people started to walk
upright.
Personally I hope some squadie who's had a mate die at a checkpoint goes and has a chat with him.
[Edited on 22/1/10 by iank]
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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chrsgrain
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:25 PM |
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That is tragic, surely there must be something that pillock can be prosecuted under.... it does sort of explain how all the bombs are getting past the
checkpoints.... unbelievable..
Chris
Spoing! - the sound of an irony meter breaking...
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A1
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:35 PM |
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you can spot a mile off its a complete con. like said, whod pay 40k for something that far fetched without asking to see a demonstration? jeez
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:36 PM |
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wonder if paypal will refund the buyer....... And what kind of neg feedback will he get.......
On a more serious note it could be worse if they find out he is a jewish double agent working for mossad.
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tegwin
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:37 PM |
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Good on him.... if he can proffit from other peoples stupidity... why not..
A fool and his money...etc...
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Would the last person who leaves the country please switch off the lights and close the door!
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BenB
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
Good on him.... if he can proffit from other peoples stupidity... why not..
A fool and his money...etc...
An innocent bystander and his life etc etc?
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:44 PM |
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I believe that dowsing may work when looking for water or similar - as long as it isn't taken too seriously. In normal use the biggest risk is
embarrassment, or a few hours wasted digging or hole-boring.
It should never - EVER - be used in situations where life and limb are at risk (as here) or risking peoples' health (as in so-called medical
diagnosis).
That seller needs to be investigated - and the Home Office and Afghan government need a stiff talking to about evaluating products!
[Edited on 22/1/10 by David Jenkins]
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MikeR
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 03:54 PM |
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I think this works on the idea that if you're carrying a bomb and go through a check point you're likely to farting like a trooper and
sweating like ..... (can't think of something here)!
The iraq squadies realise this and woohoo the device has found another bomb.
The high price and training make the iraq squaddies believe that it works, this will filter out to everyone else and the myth surround it will be
perpetuated.
If it wasn't so tragic it would be almost a good idea. (i don't believe our squaddies are using this - if they are the squaddies on the
way to give the bloke a good kicking need to call in via Westminster and practice a bit).
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adithorp
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 04:07 PM |
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6000 units sold worldwide @ $40000 each... = $240million!!!
You can kind of see why, when you've spent that sort of money on snake oil, you're not going to admit it doesn't work... or when
you're the one selling them.
Enough of that... Now then, I've got this new high-tech cloth that only clever people can see. Would you like a new suit, sir?
adrian
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 04:32 PM |
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Take a read of
http://www.justnet.org/Lists/JUSTNET%20Resources/Attachments/440/moleeval_apr02.pdf
And this was published in 2002, I would suggest the security forces where more than ware of this, (if I can find it with google!!)...
.....
Dan
[Edited on 22/1/10 by Bluemoon]
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 04:33 PM |
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Apparently he was offered $1m to do a test to prove it worked, he declined.
As people have noted, having a "device" that supposedly work could be important, if the other side believes it.
It's a bit like the current supposedly increased security at airports ect at the moment, this will make it appear more difficult, and make Jo
public feel safer, but if someone want's do actually do something chances are they will not be caught. Also the visible nature of the security
will make any possible terrorists etc nervous and hence easier to spot... Smoke an mirrors can be very useful when used correctly...
Dan
[Edited on 22/1/10 by Bluemoon]
[Edited on 22/1/10 by Bluemoon]
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Liam
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 04:49 PM |
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Careful - we'd better all be careful what mean, unfriendly things we say about that device or the people who sell it (whether true or not),
otherwise we'll be successfully sued for libel. Hooray for the british justice system  
Liam
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adithorp
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 05:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Liam
Careful - we'd better all be careful what mean, unfriendly things we say about that device or the people who sell it (whether true or not),
otherwise we'll be successfully sued for libel. Hooray for the british justice system
Liam
There's is only one defance against libel; That what you wrote was true. So unless this thing does work, it's not libel. Don't try
and make this into some un-justifiable anti-UK rant... thats the Daily Mails job.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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McLannahan
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 05:08 PM |
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Looks like he's been arrested recently?
According to WikiPedia anyway - hardly cast iron reading but encouraging!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADE-651
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scootz
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 05:20 PM |
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'kin 'ell...
You expect this sort of cack from the Far East, but Made in the UK???
It's Evolution Baby!
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 05:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
Good on him.... if he can proffit from other peoples stupidity... why not..
A fool and his money...etc...
You can't possibly mean this? A bit harsh when you consider that the cretin flogging this utter crap is actually costing peoples lives. I
really hope he goes to jail for this.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 22/1/10 at 06:06 PM |
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When in the Navy, on boarding parties, we had a device which could detect drugs, or explosives on a person. You just waved it around the suspect and
watched their eyes.
It was made from a small car battery charger, a length of washer tube and a broken microphone. Total tosh, but when used with confidence and innocent
person would be mildly irritated by its use, but a guilty person would sweat, tremble etc
Sound familiar?
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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