mark chandler
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posted on 6/6/10 at 08:33 PM |
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Car clampers on private land
Aargh luckily not me but me neighbors have been caught twice...
We all live in private residences with parking permits to the rear, although private there is a maintenace company that looks after the communal
areas.
So clamping firm turns up 8pm tonight, gets spotted so peeps run out to check cars, no-one clamped at this stage.
Clamper then rushes to his van and pulls out a clamp, the only car without a permit in his eyes, the neighbors boyfriend who offers to put valid pass
in window or move car, clamper says not interested and clamps the car infront of him
He then refuses to remove clamp gets in van and drives off, even though the resident is on the phone to the company to get this resolved, in the end
they have to pay £120 removal fine.
So as its a single access to the rear what would have happened if I had just blocked the way so he could not leave? Could he of clamped my car, would
they have they any rights to do this?
As the owner of the car was willing to move car or put a sticker in the window did he have any right to clamp?
What are peoples thoughts?
[Edited on 6/6/10 by mark chandler]
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YQUSTA
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posted on 6/6/10 at 08:44 PM |
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I know its harsh but would he expect to get away with saying to the fuzz 'I'll put a valid tax disk in' after being caught?
Why wasn't it allready in the car?
I have lived in a flat in one of these types of places and vowed never to do so again it's rediculas that you only get 1 space per car, how is
anyone going to visit and we all know most families have more than one car.
"If in doubt flat out"
Colin McRae
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MikeRJ
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posted on 6/6/10 at 08:48 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by YQUSTA
I know its harsh but would he expect to get away with saying to the fuzz 'I'll put a valid tax disk in' after being caught?
Different entirely, not displaying tax is in contravention of a law, clamping scum (and they are ALL scum) operate under civil contracts.
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mark chandler
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posted on 6/6/10 at 08:49 PM |
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Each house has 2 passes, vistor and owner, never an issue with parking, no residents complaining.
Turning up a 8pm on a Sunday is deliberately targeting visitors....
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YQUSTA
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posted on 6/6/10 at 08:58 PM |
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Different entirely, not displaying tax is in contravention of a law, clamping scum (and they are ALL scum) operate under civil contracts.
So if I come and block your drive you would be perfectly happy?
When you live in one of these places where anyone who likes parks in the allocated spaces for residents/visitors and you can't park its a pain
in the butt.
You pay a maintance contract for the parking and upkeep so why should anyone else park there.
I agree that they are scum and target people but the company managing the properties have hired/sold them the contract to do so, if they haven,t the
they have no right to be there clamping people.
"If in doubt flat out"
Colin McRae
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fha772
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posted on 6/6/10 at 09:03 PM |
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What sort of clamp was it?
You can remove a clamp yourself, so long as you don't damage it(criminal damage).
And there is nothing the clamping company can do(except put another 1 on).
So if it happens again, wait for them to leave, then just let your tyre down, push the clamp to the side and remove the wheels nuts, then push it to
the other side and remove the rest of the nuts, then with the wheel off the car you should be able to squash the tyre down and push it out of the
clamp.
Oh yes, take the clamp to the Police
station as lost property.(if they don't claim it, you'll get it back!!)
Of course the other option is, to put 4 clamps on your car, then the feckers can't clamp it!!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
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l0rd
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posted on 6/6/10 at 09:04 PM |
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Don't you have an angry grinder?
Help him out.
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fha772
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posted on 6/6/10 at 09:05 PM |
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I've removed about half a dozen, with no bother, it is harder if it's the chain type, because you have to pop the lower suspension arm out
to get the chain off.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
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l0rd
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posted on 6/6/10 at 09:11 PM |
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The way out, is to send a polite letter to the company explaining that he had just got in, and he was on his way to the house to pick up the parking
permit.
Just on his way out to put it on the dashboard when the g a y l o r d officer put the clamp on his car.
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LoMoss
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posted on 6/6/10 at 09:12 PM |
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As a resident do you not have a say in who the factor appoints as contractors? factors are supposed to operate for the benefit of the residents but
often it is in favor of the contractor. As both factor and contractor make money at your expense. Never trust a contractor appointed by a factor.
The threat of changing factor may make a difference
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BenB
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posted on 6/6/10 at 09:20 PM |
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Trouble is he's paid the fine now. I would have ground off the f'cker on the basis that he said he was putting a permit on the car (it
wasn't like the permit was being used by another car so it was basically sat unused).
And anyway, if the clamp gets ground off without a witness who are they going to try and do for CD????
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MakeEverything
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posted on 6/6/10 at 09:34 PM |
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I would have challenged him for his ID and permission to be on private property.
He should also be DISPLAYING an SIA license as a vehicle clamper.
When he went, i would have ground the clamp off and thrown it in the bin or taken it to the scrappy to get some money out of it.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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ashg
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posted on 6/6/10 at 09:45 PM |
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i have cut two off of my cars in the past never had any come back other than nasty letters. good old cordless hitachi angle grinder, haven't
found anything it cant cut through yet
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
Haynes Roadster (Finished)
Exocet (Finished & Sold)
New Project (Started)
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richiegallon
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posted on 6/6/10 at 10:24 PM |
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Agreed, cut it off!
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zetec mike
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posted on 6/6/10 at 10:58 PM |
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Which wheel did he clamp ? I've heard they can only ever clamp the offside front, not sure if thats correct.
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l0rd
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posted on 6/6/10 at 11:02 PM |
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I always get confused with offside and nearside.
I have heard, it has to be the front drivers side so you can see it before you go off driving it.
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morcus
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posted on 7/6/10 at 01:16 AM |
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Had he actually just arrived? If not he should have had the permit on there. Clampers are Scum and I agree with the Scotish Parlement that its
extortion and should be illegal (It also doesn't help as the car is not only still there but unable to move). As said above getting them on the
licensing issue and not displaying the right stuff and freely giving the right info is the best way, they could have even but the thing on the car and
phoned the police and said it was there all along.
In the last couple of years parking has been getting worse in my street, with a huge number of cars parked illegally (Opposite a T-Junction, on the
pavements, on the corner of a t junction with someone else parked oposit.) Not long after I got home on saturday someone parked a car with a trailer
on the pavement directly across the road from my Driveway, my car and my neigbours van (both on the road) and leaving a gap only just big enough for
cars to get through, so I kept getting woken up by people beeping their horns and by someone knocking on my door asking me to move my car (I made a
point of asking how he intended to get through the smaller gap between a van and the obstruction If my narrow car was to wide, he's lucky I
didn't have anything close by to hit him with. As you can imagine I'd welcome someone doing something about it. Though I really want is to
live somewhere Vans are forbidden.
Sorry to rant, the best way to prevent clampers is get a car with Spats over the wheels like an Old citreon (Which had the added benefit of lowering
when parked).
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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snakebelly
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posted on 7/6/10 at 06:37 AM |
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I agree as above, as long as you dont get seen or are confident that no one will grass you up cut it off on principle, another good one is to fill the
key hole with superglue, when they come to release you they have no option but to either cut off an expensive padlock or damage the clamp to remove
it, depending on the type, And unless they saw you do it they cant do a thing.....ask me how i know....
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MakeEverything
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posted on 7/6/10 at 09:29 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by snakebelly
I agree as above, as long as you dont get seen or are confident that no one will grass you up cut it off on principle, another good one is to fill the
key hole with superglue, when they come to release you they have no option but to either cut off an expensive padlock or damage the clamp to remove
it, depending on the type, And unless they saw you do it they cant do a thing.....ask me how i know....
Thats ol as long as you dont want your car to move in a hurry.
Generally, they dont carry cutting equipment on vans and call someone else to attend - More than likely, then next day.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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Ninehigh
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posted on 7/6/10 at 03:54 PM |
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The signs have to be visible and obvious, and iirc completely unbroken.
True they also have to have a SIA licence, no idea if it's the standard manned guard one though.
Oh and if anyone wants to know who put the superglue in their lock tell them it was me
(unless I can actually get there of course!)
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