ZEN
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| posted on 16/6/10 at 05:00 PM |
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MIDIX
Just wanted to share with you locostheads this interesting mid engine locost i found online.
[Edited on 16/6/10 by ZEN]
My YouTube channel Cars, bikes - track days, motorsport, sim racing and more.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 16/6/10 at 06:44 PM |
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That's not bad actually, I really like the side profile.
Something wrong with the renderings though, they have completely inverse perspective i.e. things nearer are smaller than the same things further away.
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kb58
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| posted on 16/6/10 at 07:22 PM |
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I wonder if that's done on Goggle Sketchup. It has that inverse-perspective bug, plus many others...
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 16/6/10 at 07:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kb58
I wonder if that's done on Goggle Sketchup. It has that inverse-perspective bug, plus many others...
It does look like Sketchup. Seems like a fairly major bug!
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Fred W B
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| posted on 16/6/10 at 08:38 PM |
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He's spent some time on that, but it doesn't look like the wishbone mounting section of the front end of the frame is at all well
connected to the centre section.
Cheers
Fred
[Edited on 16/6/10 by Fred W B]
[Edited on 16/6/10 by Fred W B]
You can do it quickly. You can do it cheap. You can do it right. – Pick any two.
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kb58
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| posted on 16/6/10 at 08:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by kb58
I wonder if that's done on Goggle Sketchup. It has that inverse-perspective bug, plus many others...
It does look like Sketchup. Seems like a fairly major bug!
Yeah don't get me started on Sketchup... I made the mistake of buying the "pro" version. All the bugs render it little better than
the free version. In my opinion, stay with the free version... 
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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ZEN
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| posted on 16/6/10 at 10:05 PM |
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Actually I didn't mind the details. But it actually got my attention as a well interpreted mid engine locost concept. Especially regarding the
chassis and the body work or the actual lack of it.
[Edited on 16/6/10 by ZEN]
My YouTube channel Cars, bikes - track days, motorsport, sim racing and more.
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MikeR
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| posted on 16/6/10 at 10:33 PM |
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i quite like it. Some bits i'd change but i think its pretty good.
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rachaeljf
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| posted on 16/6/10 at 11:35 PM |
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The "perspective" looks fine to me! They are isometric views, they look weird because the brain expects to see perspective.
The car looks like an MR2 with cycle wings, which to an X1/9 owner like me is doubly painful.
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ZEN
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| posted on 17/6/10 at 08:35 AM |
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I think it looks more like the 914 porche from the side:
My YouTube channel Cars, bikes - track days, motorsport, sim racing and more.
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suparuss
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| posted on 18/6/10 at 07:07 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rachaeljf
The "perspective" looks fine to me! They are isometric views, they look weird because the brain expects to see perspective.
The car looks like an MR2 with cycle wings, which to an X1/9 owner like me is doubly painful.
[Edited on 16/6/10 by rachaeljf]
exactly. i had the same problem with autocad when designing my car, kep the thinking id made the wheels diferent sizes.
the bug is in the brain, not the programme. if you measure the wheels that look different thay are actually the same. as rachaeljf says, it is in
isometric so your brain thinks things that are further away look bigger because they should be smaller, but are infact the same size!
ps- i think it is ugly! but for a car made of single plane curves it is not too bad. the problem with most locost style midi's is that they are
style around a locost, which is a front engine car, so most designs are doomed from the start and end up too long.
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mainlandboy
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| posted on 18/6/10 at 07:40 PM |
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Hi everyone,
Mark Tsui here, the guy who designed this. I was surprised to see this pop up here now, since it has been a while since I posted this up at
LocostUSA.com. Here is the original topic I posted there:
http://www.locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4777
The full gallery is here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/marktsui1975/MarkSMIDIXMidEngineLocost#
I used ProE to do the modeling and did a few renders using the Flamingo ad-on to Rhino.
The only pictures that are actually rendered are the pictures where the car is dark blue, so those are the only pictures that actually incorporate
perspective to them. The rest are ProE screen shots, which are just isometric without any perspective vanishing point.
Regarding the styling, I set a hard constraint on myself that the body had to be able to be made with single curvature aluminum sheet. I have seen
many gorgeous looking renders of curvy home built concepts that either never get started, never get finished, or take years to make a one-off custom
fiberglass body. I have no interest in investing the amount of time required for that.
Given this constraint I put on the design, I admit that it is not the nicest looking car, but it is one that I believe can be built fairly easily,
requiring no fiberglass work.
Cost and ease of build were the prime objectives for the design, which is why I decided to incorporate the Mac struts from the donor car in the rear,
rather than double wishbone.
I also built a Locost, which I completed in 2007. Pics here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/marktsui1975/MarkSLocost#
I welcome any feedback, good or bad. Thanks for looking!
Mark
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ZEN
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| posted on 18/6/10 at 08:35 PM |
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Nice to read you Mark!
What are the length, wight and height of the car?
As I see a lot of effort is gone into the design. Are you planing to make one?
My YouTube channel Cars, bikes - track days, motorsport, sim racing and more.
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mainlandboy
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| posted on 19/6/10 at 04:40 PM |
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Hi Zen,
Currently, the frame dimensions are 138" long, 54" wide and 26" high.
I am planning on building it at some point and maybe producing some dimensioned frame drawings for it if anyone is interested in building it.
I would have to sell the Locost to fund building it though, and it might be tough for me to see it driving away with a new owner.
Also, my wife and I have a 3 year old and a 3 month old, so my spare time for building cars is few and far between.
In the meantime, maybe I'll work on the model some more, and make drawings for the frame.
Cheers,
Mark
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ZEN
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| posted on 19/6/10 at 06:22 PM |
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We are all big car enthusiasts with similar problems (lack of time and money).
Have you considered to make it open source? I'm quite sure lot of people would love to help on the design and build the car, myself included 
My YouTube channel Cars, bikes - track days, motorsport, sim racing and more.
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mainlandboy
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| posted on 20/6/10 at 05:41 AM |
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Hey Zen,
I'm not really interested in going the open source route with this car. I've seen a few attempts that end up being too many cooks in the
kitchen. 
If I ever get around to making drawings for it, I'll make it known.
Mark
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ZEN
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| posted on 20/6/10 at 10:30 AM |
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LOL
Just don't let it stay only a project in a folder. I think it is a nice locost alternative to the classic Seven.
p.s. Regarding the discussion about the roof and doors on the LocostUSA forum. I suggest you think about some gull wing doors as option.
Roof hinged:
"A" pillar hinged:
[Edited on 20/6/10 by ZEN]
My YouTube channel Cars, bikes - track days, motorsport, sim racing and more.
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 30/8/10 at 02:55 PM |
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I'm mildly concerned about having things like shock mounts mid-span on a beam, it seems like bad planning to me? It also looks very long by the
side view?
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interestedparty
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| posted on 30/8/10 at 06:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
I'm mildly concerned about having things like shock mounts mid-span on a beam, it seems like bad planning to me? It also looks very long by the
side view?
I agree, it was the one comment I was going to make, those mounts, where most of the weight of the car will be present, will want to move towards each
other.
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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mainlandboy
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| posted on 3/9/10 at 03:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
I'm mildly concerned about having things like shock mounts mid-span on a beam, it seems like bad planning to me? It also looks very long by the
side view?
Thanks for the feedback. That is definitely a valid concern. The frame has not been finalized yet, and adding another tube with an end where the front
upper shock mount is, will be added.
Cheers,
Mark
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mainlandboy
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| posted on 31/5/20 at 03:57 AM |
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Hi all,
Time for a very long overdue update! Over the last few years, I have made a significant redesign to my Midix mid-engine sports car that I am planning
on building one day. The updated design is largely inspired by the Midlana, but has some major aesthetic differences that I wanted, as well as planned
improvements for passenger comfort and weather protection.
I have been putting together content to plan out the build, and I recently decided to turn this content into a website, which I have now launched:
https://midixsportscar.wordpress.com/
The latest CAD renderings are here:
https://midixsportscar.wordpress.com/cad-renderings/
Any feedback is welcome!
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