scootz
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 07:39 AM |
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Good Grief...
Why didn't he try opening the door first!?
And WTF is that clown doing jumping on the bonnet of a car that (as far as he can work out) has already failed to stop!? Suicidal!?
Crazy...
Linky
It's Evolution Baby!
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 07:52 AM |
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As usual, this is a very small part of a larger story, the video without the rest of the information would cause most people to jump to the wrong
conclusion.
He was initially pulled for no seatbelt, an illegal number plate and illegally tinted windows but refused to cooperate and then made off whilst the
police were dealing with him. He refused to pull over for 8 miles and finally only did so when they police put a stinger down.
The story is in the tabloids and the driver is now playing the "confused, frail old man" card, but the fact that he has previous form for
similar behaviour means he got what he deserved IMO.
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pdm
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 07:53 AM |
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too right - playing gangster with tints, private plate and rangie and then cry foul when gets treated like one !!
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scootz
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 08:00 AM |
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Did anyone say that he should have been allowed to drive away, or escape punishment... ??? IMHO he should not be allowed back on the road!
However...
I'm just commenting on the red-mist fueled attack on the car window. The window had illegal tints and with the speed he approached,
there's no way the Officer could see if the door had been locked or not! Why didn't he just try opening the door first!? Who knows... it
may have opened!
And then there's the brain-donor jumping on top of the bonnet... why!? Maybe he should just have used his head as a wedge under the wheel to
stop it driving away! It would have been just as safe a 'tactic'!
It's Evolution Baby!
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 08:03 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I'm just commenting on the red-mist fueled attack on the car window. The window had illegal tints and with the speed he approached,
there's no way the Officer could see if the door had been locked or not! Why didn't he just try opening the door first!? Who knows... it
may have opened!
And then there's the brain-donor jumping on top of the bonnet... why!? Maybe he should just have used his head as a wedge under the wheel to
stop it driving away! It would have been just as safe a 'tactic'!
Clearly you are privy to the events that took place prior to the filming, so I shall say no more.
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scootz
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 08:06 AM |
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Only as far as the original matter has already been put through the Courts... the truth told and the offender duly convicted. No problems there!
The driver didn't make the complaint about the 'tactics' (or lack thereof)... it was the Police themselves who referred it to the
PCC as they were not best pleased at the way things were (not) conducted at the scene!
It's Evolution Baby!
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 08:12 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I'm just commenting on the red-mist fueled attack on the car window. The window had illegal tints and with the speed he approached,
there's no way the Officer could see if the door had been locked or not! Why didn't he just try opening the door first!? Who knows... it
may have opened!
And then there's the brain-donor jumping on top of the bonnet... why!? Maybe he should just have used his head as a wedge under the wheel to
stop it driving away! It would have been just as safe a 'tactic'!
Clearly you are privy to the events that took place prior to the filming, so I shall say no more.
Eh? I thought Scootz was only referring to the fact that maybe it would've been worth checking the door first before expending a lot of effort
breaking the window.
As for the guy jumping on the bonnet - It's already been said that the guy has already driven off once so I would agree with Scootz that it
really doesn't seem to be the most sensible place to be.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 08:19 AM |
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It was still a completely over the top reaction by the police, fair enough if he had been viloently reisting resist, but it wasnt even a high speed
chase and he stopped calmly. They merely needed to approach the car with caution.
Its just the UK police trying some US style 'do exactly what we say or we wont hold back', which just doesnt sit well in this country (and
shouldnt).
I dont doubt that he should have had the book thrown at him for his actions, but there was no need for that much physical abuse.
It also mentions that 2 officers were suspended, so their must have been an investigation that also came to the conclustion they went too far.
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graememk
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 08:21 AM |
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who pays for the damage to the car ?
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 08:29 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by graememk
who pays for the damage to the car ?
The driver. Always.
Not sure about the after effects of a stroke but I'm "a little concerned" over someone in that physical state driving several tons
of vehicle. I've seen the mess that's made when a Focus driver has a heart attack behind the wheel..
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scootz
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 08:30 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Quinn
Eh? I thought Scootz was only referring to the fact that maybe it would've been worth checking the door first before expending a lot of effort
breaking the window.
As for the guy jumping on the bonnet - It's already been said that the guy has already driven off once so I would agree with Scootz that it
really doesn't seem to be the most sensible place to be.
Confused me too Richard...
Seems that 'whatever' went on before necessitates the quite pointless and monumentally stupid act of jumping on the bonnet of a car that
has already failed to stop!
The window breaking was also pretty pointless at that stage... fair enough if he tried the door and found it to be locked and the guy refused to come
out. The manner in which he approached the RR just screamed RAAAAAAAAAGE! I would have expected a little more composure!
It's Evolution Baby!
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Liam
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 08:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I'm just commenting on the red-mist fueled attack on the car window. The window had illegal tints and with the speed he approached,
there's no way the Officer could see if the door had been locked or not! Why didn't he just try opening the door first!? Who knows... it
may have opened!
And then there's the brain-donor jumping on top of the bonnet... why!? Maybe he should just have used his head as a wedge under the wheel to
stop it driving away! It would have been just as safe a 'tactic'!
Clearly you are privy to the events that took place prior to the filming, so I shall say no more.
Doesn't matter what happened before. There's a stinger in front of the guy and a car behind so he's not going anywhere. And they
were only after him for failing to stop! Absolutely no reason for an officer to jump up and down on the bonnet kicking the windscreen, and for the
side window to have been smashed. Sure the bloke is an obvious tw@, but so are those officers and suspending them is right.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 08:39 AM |
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Its not like he was even causing a danger to public, the ONLY reason the police acted as they did is beacuse they were annoyed he didnt 'respect
their authoriteee'
Sadly its scenes like that loose any credabilty the police have.
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 08:42 AM |
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you know what, I dont remember seeing mister grumpy around here recently. Anyone know him, is he alright?
Craig
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Agriv8
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 08:56 AM |
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I am with the Police,
put yourself in the police officers shoes the car failed to stop and the car reg details come up with previous the thing could quite easilly drive
over the officer and his car
edited to add the Range rover could eassily drive through / field / wall / house . I have seen a landy V8 shove an in gear car with hand brake on
out of the way with ease
how do you know that the door has not been tried at an earlier point in time.
it is a pimped range rover not a micra
OK police heavy handed but what do you expect after driveing away from a police officer and not stopping for 8 miles !!
[Edited on 6/8/10 by Agriv8]
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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steve m
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 09:02 AM |
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I do not know what some of you lot are ranting over
He did not stop for the police, and probably could not see them through the blacked out windows anyway
the police do not know what he is up to, despite previosly pulling him over, i do agree that the guy jumping on the bonnet was a bit futile, but the
rest, smashing windows and dragging the nutter out, i fully agree with
did he think he was beyond the law ??
steve
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steve m
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 09:03 AM |
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seems only the last 2 posts agree with the police !
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 09:15 AM |
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should nonviolently and victimlessly breaking the law result in aggression, property damage and assault?
The guy should be bought to account for breaking the law (even though I'm dubious whether those kind of laws should be there in the first
place), but its the responsibility of the police to behave in a levelheaded and responsible manner.
Should add that I'm a libertarian so this kind of thing is a big nono in my moral handbook.
[Edited on 6/8/10 by cd.thomson]
Craig
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Liam
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 09:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
you know what, I dont remember seeing mister grumpy around here recently. Anyone know him, is he alright?
I have trapped him in an eternal prison* - MWA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAA.
 
Description
*or keyfob
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 09:23 AM |
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haha! that put a smile on my face, cheers liam.
Craig
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 09:45 AM |
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Whilst the 'bonnet boy' was OTT, the guy as already said was stopped and then decided to make his own move and drive off. And I'm
sorry, stroke victim or not, he didn't look very 'frail' to me!
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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mrwibble
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 10:37 AM |
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at the risk of being told i'm not making a constructive comment.
i'm a police man hear me
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAA.
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blakep82
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 11:11 AM |
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smashing of windscreen is quite common on failure to stop cases i think (from what i've seen on road wars )
smashig the windscreen stops the driver seeing where he's going if he takes off again.
lets face it, he's driven away from police (it would have been quite clear they weren't finished with him) he failed to stop when they
chased his with lights and sirens (why would they give him a police escort?!) he knows he's racked up multiple driving offences, and come up
with crap excuses for the whole lot.
he deserved everything he got.
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mrwibble
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 11:36 AM |
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its the rage that worries me though, its exactly that kind of RAA i'm gonna get you you f*******, attitude that found an innocent corner shop
owner dead on the pavement in london. These were youngish policeman who were pumped up at the thought of "getting him" for daring to
disobey.
a bit of social disobedience does the world some good now and again, mr tv license man and his 5 year arguement is my case in point. 
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skodaman
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| posted on 6/8/10 at 02:17 PM |
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Disgusting behaviour by the police. It wouldn't have happened in America. They'd have just shot the driver.
Skodaman
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