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oadamo

posted on 11/11/10 at 11:52 PM Reply With Quote
burning poppys

whats your thoughts on this.
adam

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328703/Remembrance-Day-Poppy-burning-Muslim-protesters-mar-Armistice-Day.html

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blakep82

posted on 11/11/10 at 11:55 PM Reply With Quote
then why are they here?





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Andybarbet

posted on 11/11/10 at 11:57 PM Reply With Quote
Unbelievable





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blakep82

posted on 12/11/10 at 12:01 AM Reply With Quote
that page has changed loads literally in the last 10 minutes





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splitrivet

posted on 12/11/10 at 12:02 AM Reply With Quote
Chuck the f@ckers out of the country, simples.
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oadamo

posted on 12/11/10 at 12:03 AM Reply With Quote
i feel this country gone down the pan to far, we let people in thinking we are doing them a favour. and all the do is poo on our door step, i think this country needs to make a stand and fast.
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DorsetStrider

posted on 12/11/10 at 12:09 AM Reply With Quote
So let me get this right...

They live her to have freedom of speech...

They then burn poppys in protest, thus disrespecting the memory of the brave souls who gave their lives giving them freedom of speech.

I give up... Some people are just too foolish to live. Darwin was obviously corret.





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DorsetStrider

posted on 12/11/10 at 12:26 AM Reply With Quote
Another thought occurs (two in one day... I must lay down!)

I wonder what these ....erm....people would say if I decided to burn the pakistan flag or say a picture of mohammed.

I wonder if they would be so glad of and respectful of my freedom of speech. Anyone wanna lay odds on the outcome?





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balidey

posted on 12/11/10 at 07:52 AM Reply With Quote
I know the swear filter will block this out, but that 'demonstration' really winds me up and those bleepers need kicking out of this country and now. I like to think I am a fairly tolerant person, but bleep that, if they want to burn poppys and demonstrate on that day at that time then they are bastards and should be bleeping burnt.

Sorry for the rant, but that really has affected me.





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02GF74

posted on 12/11/10 at 07:59 AM Reply With Quote
The irony is they are exercising the freedom of speach that so many have fought for, including my father in WW2.

I don't like to see this but it would be worse if they were not allowed to express their opinion?

No point getting wound up about it. Let's face it, they are just a bunch of lads, a tiny tiny minority, who want to look hard.


and they can f*** off as far as I'm concerned.

[Edited on 12/11/10 by 02GF74]






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Benzine

posted on 12/11/10 at 08:04 AM Reply With Quote
I think they're angry because hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians have been killed in Iraq/Afghanistan. (I don't agree with burning a poppy as that tarnishes the memories of those who served in the great wars, but I understand anger against britain)

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handyandy

posted on 12/11/10 at 08:21 AM Reply With Quote
That is disgusting

They are the scum of society, its about time we as a nation stopped this abuse of the freedom of speech that so many lost their lives to allow us to have the right of freedom of speech, but yet if "I" was to get a soap box & stand in the middle of a high street somewhere & bad mouth these fanatics & express my own personal thoughts to the public , then no doubt I would be arrested for inciting racial discrimination etc

These sort of people "create" racism themselves by their actions as in the news article in this thread, then use the said racism against the population to incite even more hatred.

I wonder what they would be shouting if they were all rounded up, taken to the beach in Dover & told "SWIM" , the very beach that was a focal point of the freedom of this nation that so many gave their lives for .

Sorry for my rant, but like many I,m sure, my own father fought for the freedom of speech & I hate to see the scum of society abuse what he gave to allow us all to live in peace.

GET THEM OUT.

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whitestu

posted on 12/11/10 at 08:21 AM Reply With Quote
I don't like it but that is the whole point of freedom of speech. In fact I think we should be more tolerant when defending people's rights to express their opinion.
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jabbahutt

posted on 12/11/10 at 08:35 AM Reply With Quote
Round them up and throw them out!! Forget freedom of speech this is a step too faralways amazes me that one faction can do what they like and it gets a green light under freedom of speech but if the BNP decided to hold a protest on Ramadna it would be a different story






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balidey

posted on 12/11/10 at 08:42 AM Reply With Quote
This is NOT freedom of speech. This is hate-mongering. On a special day to remember PEACE. I have not ranted about all the other dozens of times this sort of flag burning happens, but to do it on that day at that time has (in my eyes) removed their freedom of speach.





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BenB

posted on 12/11/10 at 08:47 AM Reply With Quote
And the Daily Vile wins again.

Okay, so there are about five misguided and thoughtless men who burnt a poppy. What's rather more worrying is that there are ten times more people writing newspapers who have an obvious desire to stir up racial tension and there are (from the readership figures) thousands of people who can't read between the lines and actually see what's the true agenda is. Whilst you have plonkers like the BNP in the country you'll get idiots burning poppies, there's no difference. One could say, however, that the placard about Afghanistan is perhaps true, it's been the thorn in the side of many dwindling empires.

Come on peeps chillax, who cares if there are idiots in this country. We know this already.

Personally I'm very intolerant of intolerance so I'd like to throw out of the country anyone who is intolerant.
And that would include these poppy-burning fellers, the BNP, the entire staff and subscribers of the Daily Fail. And Noel Edmonds- okay he's not intolerant but he gets on my thumpnies.

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balidey

posted on 12/11/10 at 08:55 AM Reply With Quote
Yeah, I'm with you BenB.... I bleeping hate Edmonds too





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carpmart

posted on 12/11/10 at 09:30 AM Reply With Quote
Well, the measured opinion is BenB's post, the rest are emotional but to my mind, well founded!

Why should we put up with this kind of extreme behavior? This is not freedom of speech, this is freedom to create hatred!

Just look at the LCB community. The demographic of this site is pretty representative of the country as a whole. We often see posts from people saying things like what a fantastically helpful and considerate group of people we are. Read the posts in this thread from those same 'helpful' and 'considerate' people. It may appear to be an emotional response from some people, but its a real response! Something needs to be done to stop groups like the ones 'colourfully' reported by this article.

I for one would like some direct and decisive action to be taken against these 'protesters'!





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Macbeast

posted on 12/11/10 at 09:46 AM Reply With Quote
I like the picture of the pliceman, wearing a poppy, escorting the dirtbags





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tony-devon

posted on 12/11/10 at 10:09 AM Reply With Quote
that page is very different from the way it was first of all

all the pics that were on there of people being escorted away! were EDL, none of the nasty scum that caused the trouble in the first place

what annoys me is that they are so happy to live in a country that offends them so badly

could it be the hundreds in benefits each week, the housing, the health care, the free cars and driving lessons, the free household furniture?

no surely not

I just dont get it, why would they stay here?





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adithorp

posted on 12/11/10 at 10:48 AM Reply With Quote
Ben is spot on!

It's not the people who do this that annoy me, but those who expliot there situation to breed hate in them... and those who exploit the story to try and breed hate in us.
In reality the extreamists on both sides are working to the same end. They both benefit from the same publicity. We bomb Afganistan (I'm notimplying that was the start), extreamists wind up young men in bad situations and blame us, they burn poppies, 'The Mail writes it story, we protest about "muslim scum", they preach we hate them, they... Oh, thats where we came in.

I we'd be better to see this as a tribute to those who fought and died. Not using or banning the very thing they fought for would be an insult. Accept it (celebrate it even) and the reason for doing it goes away. Ban this and where do you stop? The Mail printing the story, students protesting the cuts, people on forums moaning about taxes...?





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breezy

posted on 12/11/10 at 10:48 AM Reply With Quote
I only hope more decent citizens of this country turn out on Sunday to show there respects to the fallen. The fallen came from all walks of life and were of many different colours and creed, they all gave there lives for a GREAT purpose - so we ALL could have the Freedom that we enjoy today.
Lets show these so called fanatics that we still have great respect for our forefathers actions - and for those who are still falling, again for us ALL.





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andrew

posted on 12/11/10 at 10:58 AM Reply With Quote
REMEMBER THE WORDS OF ENOCH POWELL ,,,,,,,HAD HE MANAGED TO GET IN POWER THIS COUNTRY WOULD NOT BE IN THE MESS IT IS IN NOW ,,,,"""?????????????????
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David Jenkins

posted on 12/11/10 at 12:23 PM Reply With Quote
Most of the muslims I have met have been decent, law-abiding folk who would be HORRIFIED by behaviour like that.

Don't put the huge majority in the same basket as a few extremist nutters, who are also hated and derided by normal muslims. It's also worth remembering that a large crowd of muslims in their normal muslim clothes stood up and applauded the soldiers marching in Luton (I think it was there) after a small number of extremists got a lot of publicity by booing and shouting abuse in previous parades.

[Edited on 12/11/10 by David Jenkins]





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alister667

posted on 12/11/10 at 12:25 PM Reply With Quote
These folks are the equivalent of internet trolls, and they are only doing it to garner outrage and attention from the likes of the god-awful Daily Mail, hoping to make the UK more extremist and get more publicity for a tiny, tiny minority. Just ignore them. All the negative reaction and coverage is what they crave.

It was exactly the same thing as when an Islamic march through Wootton Bassett was suggested. There was no hope of it ever happening, it was only done to stir up outrage and controversy.

Brilliant bit by Charlie Brooker looking into this type of idiocy and the morons in the media happy to play along to stir up some trouble and outrage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4mnUAWmROE

5 mins long, highly recommend you watch this to get a better understanding of how you're being manipulated.

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